If you start with the assumption "God does not exist" you will always find a logical rationale to support that despite any expierience or evidence?
Do you like being right?
2007-02-23 15:26:24 · 21 answers · asked by Doug 5 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Leave us alone!
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ok...
But you could just not listen.
Or should I stop talking?
2007-02-23 15:32:49 · update #1
maggie,
no.
God defies logic.
That's the point.
He's supernatural.
2007-02-23 15:33:16 · update #2
I'm not arrogant enough to believe that I'm right all the time.
I have a pretty open mind but all evidence now points to
Atheism (may change though.)
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cool.
2007-02-23 15:33:49 · update #3
I'm not arrogant enough to believe that I'm right all the time.
I have a pretty open mind but all evidence now points to
Atheism (may change though.)
2007-02-23 15:28:58 · answer #1 · answered by ? 3 · 3⤊ 2⤋
There are only two logical rationales that support it the position that God does not exist:
1. There is no evidence to support the claim that God does exist.
2. The burden of evidence rests with the one making that claim.
The argument from personal experience is a logical fallacy. Evidence is another matter. Evidence would contradict the first rationale, and would call for a new conclusion.
I don't like being right, I value being correct. Show me evidence that proves that God exists, and I will accept that as what is correct. Most atheists will, because they think logically, and are intellectually honest.
A theist, however, could watch a spaceship full of aliens land on this planet, walk up to those aliens, and tell them that God created them. That's the beauty of "faith", it allows people to believe whatever they want, even when it is neither logical nor rational.
2007-02-23 23:43:43 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
But you can also find a logical rationale to support that He does, right? I am not a non believer, but i also do not believe in pushing my faith on other people. I concentrate on being a good person and being happy within myself, and hope that other people do the same. There are 2 things you should never argue about with people who you want to stay friends, and those are 1) religion and 2) politics.
2007-02-23 23:34:47 · answer #3 · answered by latinsmama 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Isn't it true, believers, if you start with the assumption "God exists" you will always find a logical rationale to support that despite any expierience or evidence?
Do you like being right?
Oh... wait... I should probably take "logical" out of there for this one. Nothing logical about believing in fairy tales.
2007-02-23 23:28:55 · answer #4 · answered by maggielynn 3 · 4⤊ 1⤋
Yes, much the same way that one finds a "logical" rationale to support faith.
The difficulty with the "logical" rationale in either case is that the the premise concerning the existence or non-existence of God cannot be conclusively proved.
So, to that extent, atheism and theism are equally matters of faith.
2007-02-23 23:45:22 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
People who are "non-believers" as you call them, do not necessarily begin with the assumption that God does not exist. I was in a Christian environment since I was born, used to believe strongly in the religion, and I still made my own decision in high school to become Agnostic.
I mean, does a man walking on water sound logical to you? Nope. Don't even pretend it does. =]
If you begin with an assumption, you will not always follow it. My personal example being proof.
2007-02-23 23:31:08 · answer #6 · answered by Mugichari 5 · 2⤊ 0⤋
If you start with the assumption that god exists, you will always find arguments that support that. In fact, you have a vested interest in doing so because to accept anything else is to invalidate yourself and your life of belief. Being a non-believer is simply the state of not believing (in this case, believing what you believe) and it gives a non-believer the option of changing his mind if he thinks the evidence supports a different point of view.
You will deny anything that counters your belief.
2007-02-23 23:33:43 · answer #7 · answered by Skeff 6 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Possibly.
But I started with the assumption that God did exist, and I didn't find it self-evident. Since it wasn't self-evident, and I didn't find any other evidence, I lost my faith by the time I was a teenager.
2007-02-24 00:03:37 · answer #8 · answered by Contemplative Monkey 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
What about the believers who started with the assumption "God exists" and used logic to convert into non-believers?
Or were they non-believers first?
2007-02-23 23:30:49 · answer #9 · answered by dmlk2 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Yes, it is true that if you hold a negative belief that a god does not exist that you will find rationalizations that there is none.
It is also true if you hold a positive belief that a god does exist you will find rationalizations for his existence.
I lack belief in God, and hold no rationalizations for or against one. I have no positive nor negative beliefs in God.. I seek knowledge affirming the existence of a God, yet find none. Most Atheists here are weak Atheists, not the strong Atheists most people assume we are.
2007-02-23 23:30:19 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋