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Black Elk knew, when he spoke wise men agreed, and they were many around him then. He talked of the hoop that joins all things. He knew what one does to a strand effects the whole web. And Jesus knew also, he said, forgive them father for they know not what they do. How many out there understand this simple words?

2007-02-23 14:35:05 · 10 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

wd: Are you saying God talked to you? You must be very blessed indeed, I have listened for a long time now and even though the God/Goddess reveiled to me many things, I have heard not a word.

2007-02-23 14:54:41 · update #1

bac2: Check out the web. {pun intended}

2007-02-23 14:58:35 · update #2

Sunman: There is understanding in the light of man. {pun intended} Do two puns make a right?

2007-02-23 15:03:14 · update #3

bac2: I see your point but separation is based on a untruth.

2007-02-23 15:07:22 · update #4

Renoir: Well I see truth as one And there is no separation. I talk of truth not beliefs.

2007-02-23 15:15:24 · update #5

Sunman: Yes, because of separation gospel some build square lodges in a round land.

2007-02-23 15:23:52 · update #6

yana s: True words indeed, Let those who have ears hear, the music of the spheres.

2007-02-23 15:30:49 · update #7

Areflectiononyou: Much closer than that. There is no separation.

2007-02-23 15:33:30 · update #8

10 answers

All these are related,
All these are relatives.
O You, Power, there where the sun goes down:
You are a relative.
O You, Power, where the Giant lives:
You are a relative.
O You, where the sun comes from:
You are a relative.
O You, Power, there where we always face:
You are a relative.

That relative!

The earth is our relative.

These Four are our relatives.
We are all related.
We are all one.

Wallace Black Elk, The Sacred Pipe.


-----In this case, two puns make two rights.
Making four rights brings you back where you started from. The Hoop. The Sacred Circle.

2007-02-23 14:57:48 · answer #1 · answered by ? 6 · 4 0

Who is Black Elk?

I do not subscribe to ANY religion

Religion is the square peg in the round hole of spirituality

But, I think that any religion that speaks of separation is on to something.

Because separation,, or the elimination of same by atonement (At Onement) is the only purpose of our experience of this Interactive Virtual Reality movie called Life.

2007-02-23 22:49:25 · answer #2 · answered by bak2deefuture 3 · 1 0

Good point about the difference between Truth and belief. Truth, in the Universal sense, unites to God. Yet that union to God must - by definition - mean separation from that which is not of God! If you believe ALL is God, then you are never going to see that. But I'm not here to argue. Your Q is intriguing and I want to get the measure of it.

One answerer shed light referring to religious people who believe in separation, having nothing to do with others. That is false religion. The Christian faith commands me to mix with others, especially those who don't believe as I do, to be salt and light in a putrifying and sin-darkened world. Jesus "went about doing good". He mixed with sinners and was despised by the self-righteous for doing that. But Christ shunned all sinful deeds and thoughts, and clearly warned of the consequences of pursuing sin. Yet he had mercy on them, healing, and speaking words of truth and of life. There is such a thing as sin that offends a Holy God and sanctification means being "set apart" for the holy. Jesus' awesome request that God forgive those who tortured him to death is the measure of God's preparedness to forgive repentant sinners. The measure of our response to that is, surely, to follow Christ and do what he commands, for he is the way, the truth and the life.

2007-02-24 03:15:06 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Don't most religions talk about separation? In Judaism, God had separate "chosen people." In Christianity, the non believers will be separated to hell. In Islam, you have the separation of believers from the infidels.

2007-02-23 22:47:20 · answer #4 · answered by Wisdom in Faith 4 · 2 0

the trouble with religion and religious questions in particular is that when an individual who does not agree with religious beliefs and considers that believers are, because of their dogmatic adherence to their perception of what defines their belief structure, incapable of rational debate. If this can be accepted then by extension your question is moot because it surely implies that religious people are so sensitive that they will have nothing to do with anyone who disagrees with their philosophy and to that end are insular which taken to its conclusion means separation from the ideas and beliefs of non-believers and so, by implication all religion leads to conflict and discord.

2007-02-23 23:01:02 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

The Father did forgive them but they did not receive. Forgiveness doesn't work until it becomes personal.
God is the one who says "depart from me, I never knew you."
That is not religion talking - that is God Almighty. Your choice.

2007-02-23 22:39:41 · answer #6 · answered by wd 5 · 4 0

Religion that speak of separation are time bound and will vanish in the course of time....It has no locus standing.....truth dont need support nor affirmation it stands on its own.

2007-02-23 22:41:47 · answer #7 · answered by yana s 1 · 1 0

All religions talk about separation.

2007-02-23 22:39:50 · answer #8 · answered by Answergirl 5 · 2 0

YOU HAVE TO BE HOLY TO TAKE IN THE TRUTH

2007-02-23 23:05:22 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

We are all Gods children.....in my opinion.

2007-02-23 22:42:53 · answer #10 · answered by The Angry Stick Man 6 · 2 0

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