Place would be defined as materialism which can be seen or touched. Space would be idealism. Space like thoughts/beliefs cannot be touched.
2007-02-23 14:37:18
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answer #1
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answered by Alletery 6
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This might take a while.
It relates to numbers.
The ancients did not have a 9 digit number system with a zero. What they had was solid numbers, counting numbers, not even real measuring numbers and certainly not numbers like we use them in algebra. If you read a modern version of Greek math it is full of equations which they never had. Much of the meaning is lost.
If you think about them teaching geometry they could show a unit of length to be counted with dividers. Or they could count points.
One point gives location. So one, unity was a place, it was the first location.
A second point counting 2 was female and everything else was born out of it. Not the point by itself, but the two points and the relations between them.
If you set you compass at the distance between the points you have measured extension. Space is born.
First Location (place) then Distance(space).
Now if you use your compass to mark the radia from those two points you get overlapping circles. Three points give the plane and are male, The full four points shown so far represent the earth and are(because they are even) female. In most old writings you find earth has 4 corners, 4 directions, 4 winds and so on.
I could continue with the numbers but Chaos is important.
They had no concept of nothing as nothing like we have. To them less than one was Chaos. And Chaos had everything in it. It was a seething ocean of unformed possibility. Everything was there. Everything was created out of Chaos by Order. By forming first a location to extend the world from. Then with the extension from a location to (2) the second location the world was created.
If this is hard to understand get a compass and a ruler, and a blank sheet of paper(the greeks used a sand box).
The blank paper is chaos. Make a point, You have now created the first level of order being born out of Chaos, a location. Now make a second point and draw a line through them, make it nice and long, set your compass on the two points. Draw the circles. The part where they overlap is called the belly of the fish( later writers being polite, but I think at first they called it something else) This is the Belly of the fish that everything is born from. (like the stories of Jonah or many other religious figures) the two circles, if you draw connecting lines give an equilateral triangle outside the belly and inside the fishes belly is an isoscelese triangle. Connecting with your ruler where the circles cross top and bottom gives the 4 directions. You have not yet constructed the square that represents the real world. It requires one more element. I wont go further for now. As more shapes are made they are more symbolic, seven being spiritual because you can not actually do it with a compass but also because of the relationships it exposes. 5 is magical because it exposes the golden ratios, it also appears as sacred spirals in all life and represents life.(ratio phi). Keep playing with the compass and ruler.
To much writing for now, sorry, I did not intend to bore you.
Place is location, space is extension, and chaos is where everything comes from, but when they talk of stuff coming out of nothing they did not mean empty nothing like we do. In modern terms it is more like the quantum probability fields.(not quite but close enough for now)
2007-02-23 23:20:59
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answer #2
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answered by U-98 6
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There would be space for any & all.
But your place would be a position ( as in on top or the bottom).
2007-02-23 22:41:27
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answer #3
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answered by Helzabet 6
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There is a philosophy forum if you get no answers(other than this lame response).
2007-02-23 22:35:52
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answer #4
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answered by Anonymous
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