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No the early Church Fathers taught the doctrine. They called it limbo then.

Whenever a date is set for the "invention" of purgatory, you can point to historical evidence to show the doctrine was in existence before that date. Besides, if at some point the doctrine was pulled out of a clerical hat, why does ecclesiastical history record no protest against it?

A study of the history of doctrines indicates that Christians in the first centuries were up in arms (sometimes quite literally) if anyone suggested the least change in beliefs. They were extremely conservative people who tested a doctrine’s truth by asking, Was this believed by our ancestors? Was it handed on from the apostles? Surely belief in purgatory would be considered a great change, if it had not been believed from the first—so where are the records of protests?

They don’t exist. There is no hint at all, in the oldest writings available to us (or in later ones, for that matter), that "true believers" in the immediate post-apostolic years spoke of purgatory as a novel doctrine. They must have understood that the oral teaching of the apostles, what Catholics call tradition, and the Bible not only failed to contradict the doctrine, but, in fact, confirmed it.

It is no wonder, then, that those who deny the existence of purgatory tend to touch upon only briefly the history of the belief. They prefer to claim that the Bible speaks only of heaven and hell. Wrong. It speaks plainly of a third condition, commonly called the limbo of the Fathers, where the just who had died before the redemption were waiting for heaven to be opened to them. After his death and before his resurrection, Christ visited those experiencing the limbo of the Fathers and preached to them the good news that heaven would now be opened to them (1 Pet. 3:19). These people thus were not in heaven, but neither were they experiencing the torments of hell.

Some have speculated that the limbo of the Fathers is the same as purgatory. This may or may not be the case. However, even if the limbo of the Fathers is not purgatory, its existence shows that a temporary, intermediate state is not contrary to Scripture. Look at it this way. If the limbo of the Fathers was purgatory, then this one verse directly teaches the existence of purgatory. If the limbo of the Fathers was a different temporary state, then the Bible at least says such a state can exist. It proves there can be more than just heaven and hell.

2007-02-22 13:34:24 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0 3

Pope Purgatory

2016-12-18 08:11:47 · answer #2 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

Nope.... No purgatory in any of those verses.... Matt 12 isn't speaking approximately sins being forgiven after death.. this is in simple terms pointing out people who communicate against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven..... factor sparkling...... a million Cor is speaking approximately believers, it says our lives, works, what we've performed for God, the affection shown, helping others, etc... would be revealed and if we have not performed those issues that too would be revealed..... the *fireplace* is the *eyes of God* or Jesus, no longer something is hidden....... yet even nonetheless we'd have not performed all we ought to consistently have, observed as to do, waiting to do right here on earth, yet we believed with our hearts that *Jesus died on the bypass, replaced into buried and arose lower back 3 days later* , all of us comprehend that Jesus is our Lord and Savior, we are nevertheless sure for Glory *eternity*..... So no, purgatory isn't spoken of in the Bible....... newborn of God - X atheist

2016-10-16 07:07:18 · answer #3 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

In Roman Catholic teaching, every sin carries a punishment, and there are two punishments for sin: eternal punishment inflicted in Hell, and temporal punishment inflicted in this life or in purgatory if left uncompleted upon death. Forgiveness of sin, for example through the absolution granted by confession, remits the eternal punishment. Penance, such as almsgiving, prayer, fasting, and suffering remit temporal punishment. Thus temporal punishment is a satisfaction for sin.[20]

Those who die in a state of grace, i.e. without un-forgiven mortal sins, but who as yet retain either un-forgiven venial sins or temporal punishment due for sins are purged before entering Heaven, so as to be made perfect. Everyone who enters Purgatory belongs to the elect, and will therefore eventually reach Heaven. Hence, purgatory is not some lesser form of Hell. Prayers for the dead and indulgences, related to the concept of penance mentioned above, can reduce this temporal punishment.[21]

A concise explication of the Roman Catholic doctrine of Purgatory was presented by Julian, Cardinal Cesarini to the Eastern Orthodox fathers assembled at the Council of Ferrara-Florence, Session VI, June (1438?):

2007-02-22 13:18:52 · answer #4 · answered by lookn2cjc 6 · 0 1

Verse (1 Pet. 3:19). is not referring to Jesus visiting any "fathers in limo" or "purgatory" but to Jesus visiting the the disobedient (fallen) Angels. Read the rest of the verses:

18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:

19 By which also he went and *preached unto the spirits in prison*;

20 *Which sometime were disobedient*, when once the longsuffering of God waited *in the days of Noah*, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

*Here is further evidence that Peter is speaking about fallen angels* in the days of Noah.

2 pet 2:
4 *For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment*;

5 And spared not the old world, *but saved Noah* the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;

2016-11-29 13:56:45 · answer #5 · answered by susan scott 2 · 0 0

The word purgatory is not used in the Bible but the understanding of purgatory comes from an understanding of scripture.

God gave us inspired word, but he also gave us the church...Jesus commissioned Peter to build his church. The church has the authority to define doctrine. The church does this with great research and understanding of scripture. It is not done on the fly, but takes years.

2007-02-22 13:21:32 · answer #6 · answered by Misty 7 · 0 2

Purgatory: “According to the teaching of the [Roman Catholic] Church, the state, place, or condition in the next world . . . where the souls of those who die in the state of grace, but not yet free from all imperfection, make expiation for unforgiven venial sins or for the temporal punishment due to venial and mortal sins that have already been forgiven and, by so doing, are purified before they enter heaven.” (New Catholic Encyclopedia, 1967, Vol. XI, p. 1034) Not a Bible teaching.

On what is the teaching of purgatory based?

After reviewing what Catholic writers have said regarding such texts as 2 Maccabees 12:39-45, Matthew 12:32, and 1 Corinthians 3:10-15, the New Catholic Encyclopedia (1967, Vol. XI, p. 1034) acknowledges: “In the final analysis, the Catholic doctrine on purgatory is based on tradition, not Sacred Scripture.”

“The church has relied on tradition to support a middle ground between heaven and hell.”—U.S. Catholic, March 1981, p. 7.

Regarding the nature of purgatory, what do Catholic spokesmen say?

“Many think that the total suffering of purgatory is identified with the awareness of the temporary postponement of the beatific vision, although the more common view holds that, in addition to this, there is some positive punishment . . . In the Latin Church it has been generally maintained that this pain is imposed through real fire. This is not, however, essential to belief in purgatory. It is not even certain. . . . Even if one chooses, with the theologians of the East, to reject the idea of suffering induced by fire, one should be careful not to exclude all positive suffering from purgatory. There are still real affliction, sorrow, chagrin, shame of conscience, and other spiritual sorrows capable of inflicting true pain on the soul. . . . One should remember, at any rate, that in the midst of their sufferings these souls also experience great joy over the certainty of salvation.”—New Catholic Encyclopedia (1967), Vol. XI, p. 1036, 1037.

“What goes on in purgatory is anyone’s guess.”—U.S. Catholic, March 1981, p. 9.

Does the soul survive the death of the body?

Ezek. 18:4, Dy: “The soul [Hebrew, ne´phesh; “man,” JB; “one,” NAB; “soul,” Kx] that sinneth, the same shall die.”

Jas. 5:20, JB: “Anyone who can bring back a sinner from the wrong way that he has taken will be saving a soul from death and covering up a great number of sins.” (Italics added.) (Notice that this speaks of the death of the soul.)

For more details, see the headings “Death” and “Soul.”

Is further punishment for sin exacted after one’s death?

Rom. 6:7, NAB: “A man who is dead has been freed from sin.” (Kx: “Guilt makes no more claim on a man who is dead.”)

Are the dead able to experience joy because of confidence in the prospect of salvation?

Eccl. 9:5, JB: “The living know at least that they will die, the dead know nothing.”

Isa. 38:18, JB: “Sheol does not praise you [Yahweh], death does not extol you; those who go down to the pit do not go on trusting in your faithfulness.” (So how can any of them “experience great joy over the certainty of salvation”?)

According to the Bible, by what means is purification from sins accomplished?

1 John 1:7, 9, JB: “If we live our lives in the light, as he [God] is in the light, we are in union with one another, and the blood of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from all sin. . . . If we acknowledge our sins, then God who is faithful and just will forgive our sins and purify us from everything that is wrong [“all our wrong-doing is purged away,” Kx].”

Rev. 1:5, JB: “Jesus Christ . . . loves us and has washed away our sins with his blood.”

2007-02-22 13:15:46 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 2

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2007-02-22 13:10:19 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1 2

Popes invented all kinds of stuff. They think they co-rule everything. Now they have a Nazi pope, look out. Can you just see Saint Adolph?

2007-02-22 13:08:30 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1 3

yes, along with the date of Christmas on dec 23 and the use of many other Pagan rituals in the catholic church.

2007-02-22 13:16:16 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 3

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