If Jesus hadnt died on the cross and fainted instead, would the apostles even speak about it?

Question

Lets assume that he didnt die but actually fainted, and then he was seen walking among other people, seing that the Romans would try to kill him again, would they have informed the general public about his living?

Answer 1

There is actually quite a bit of evidence to suggest that something like this actually happened. There are several references to Jesus living in Kashmir long after he supposedly was killed.

There are even followers of this second ministry that he had that still exist and worship his memory there.

If you want more info email and I will send it.

Love and blessings

Don

Answer 2

We can assume a lot of fun things. We can assume that Jesus traded places with someone else, as some of the pseudographica claim. We can assume that the whole story of the crucifixion was based on the tales of Hercules, as many people have put forth.

Fainting on the cross, however... For this to be true, we'd have to make some other assumptions that don't make a ton of sense.

1.) We'd have to ignore the spear in the side
2.) We'd have to assume that the Roman soldiers who took him down were fooled by a person whose wounds were still bleeding (dead people don't bleed, and these soldiers probably would have known this!)
3.) We'd have to assume that Jesus survived not only being cruxified, but did so after being whipped and beaten

Then we have to assume...
4.) That the secret was being kept while he was healing up
5.) That he Romans were sufficently inept as to not find out about this even though Jerusaelm was by today's standards just a medium town and Jesus was pretty well known
6.) Jesus himself was in on the plan and agreed with it
7.) Somehow, the plan of wandering around in town would make more sense than a small group leaving town and moving base to some safer place
8.) Many of the apostles were killed, horribly and brutally- proclaiming that Jesus was resurrected right up till the very end. Surely SOMEONE would have broken?
9.) There is no evidence that the apostles ever made any money or gained any real prestige from this- why would they have kept the lie going?

Of all the options out there, the 'fainted' bit seems to me to be one of the weakest.

Answer 3

Not a typical answer from someone raised Catholic, but I would have liked that scenario. The thought of anyone dying for my sins always made me first incredibly sad...then angry. Even as a child I knew I was responsible for my actions. Church teachings would tell children that everytime we sinned we made Jesus suffer. To a kid with a conscience, that burden was far too heavy.

I would have loved the rest of the story to have been Jesus living a long life continuing with his teaching. THAT would have indeed been a lovely miracle...in my mind anyway...better than even Resurrection. It is in the living and learning and teaching and hopefully loving that true miracles occur.

And, I believe that Jesus would have made just as strong an impact had he lived. Why? Because his message of compassion, peace, fairness and forgiveness were unique and powerful.

Buddha lived to be a fat, happy old man before he died and his teachings have had a tremendous impact to numbers of people perhaps equal to the number of Christians.

I guess the most important thing is that all the "great" or largest religions practiced today share at least one key tenet and that is to "treat/love your neighbor as yourself."

If the people of the world followed that simple yet profound tenet...we wouldn't have much need for wars or armies. The shame of the world is the numbers of people who have killed in the name of God...any God.

Answer 4

I think the people crucifying him were pretty steadfast to make sure he was dead, and remember his body was also taken to a grave with a big heavy stone over it and two guards. There are definitely possibilities to argue that anything could have happened, but the likelihood in my opinion is not great. But, if Jesus had not been dead, I think the apostles would have been taken just by everyone else who thought he was dead, and would have acted just the same. Had they known he hadn't died, then maybe they'd try to cover that fact up, or maybe they would have tried to hide him. It's hard to say, because they did make grave mistakes in the other stories, so they could have done something stupid there as well.

Answer 5

Whatever the Great Spirit had meant to be for that moment, that is, Jesus's death on the cross, would have happened anyway. Even if he had fainted, he was destined to be in that moment and act as he did in that time. Nothing could change the path that the Great One had in store for him, or any of us for that matter. This is why we have to be in each moment. We don't want to miss our cues and get caught "sleeping" or "fainting" on the job!

Now whether or not they talked about it or acted in any accord, would have to do with how the grand design was unveiled. Perhaps instruments of a greater plan, they might have just been talking, or walking right on cue.

Answer 6

The Romans wouldn't have believed it. And it all depends on how the apostles perceived it, not what really happened.

Answer 7

yes the appostles would have spoke about it...

The great thing about mythology is you can make up any way out stories you like... pretty much like those who wrote the bible and koran have done.

jesus the son of god - hahah a hha hhah ah ah h ah ha LOL

Answer 8

Well, obv this didnt happen so what is the point of saying "what if" if it wont make a diff in any fo our little lives or in history for that matter.

Answer 9

I am imagining he didn't die on the cross..........even after two thousand years of him hanging on the cross seeing it in person would still be a major tourist attraction.

Answer 10

But Jesus did die and then rose from the dead on the 3rd day.