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The Bible, believe in it or not, is stories told by humans of a God, and how he wants you to live your life. The main goal of life seems to be praising him. He created us, and gave us free will so we would come to him and love him without being forced into it, making it real love.

Loving him was being one with God, but everytime we did something God didn't like, we would grow farther apart from him. This is known as sin. The first humans did it, the last humans probably will.

He sees this constant sinning and isn't pleased, he kills his creation almost in its entirety at one point due to how far away from him they were living.

God then shows himself in the human form in a man we know as Jesus Christ. He shows how to be one with God, and one with his Glory.

Jesus Christ, however, was not born with this free will as He was God. He is God in the human form, therefore he was God. Without free will, you become a sheep.

Jesus was a sheep.

You're trying to be a sheep.

2007-02-22 05:26:25 · 16 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

"Jesus had freewil and could have chosen to sin at anytime."

Not if he was God, you see if He sinned the universe would collapse. Hence why the Christians get so pissed off about the DaVinci Code.

2007-02-22 05:32:02 · update #1

"What is your basis for this? Are you saying God does not have free will?"

You can't have free will when you are all knowing. If you know everything that has happened and you can't change it you lose free will.

2007-02-22 05:34:17 · update #2

16 answers

Jesus had freewil and could have chosen to sin at anytime.

Jesus was sinless and had to"retain" sinlessness.

We are sinful and must attain to Christ likenss.

2007-02-22 05:30:18 · answer #1 · answered by Tribble Macher 6 · 3 0

"Jesus Christ, however, was not born with this free will as He was God."

What is your basis for this? Are you saying God does not have free will?

Your theology is seriously flawed.

"you see if He sinned the universe would collapse. "
Are you saying God is unable to choose to destroy the universe?

"If you know everything that has happened and you can't change it you lose free will."
Non sequitur. That's a logical fallacy. Knowing the past has no bearing on being unable to choose future actions. It also presumes that God was unable to change anything. So far the only person who has said he can't change anything is you. So I fail to see how that argument applies to Christianity. Furthermore, it presumes that free will consists either of absolute unlimited power or does not exist, a false dichotomy. While this may be true of God the Father, nobody makes that claim (except for you) for the incarnate Son. Altogether you are making a variety of claims that either have no bearing on the topic, or that misrepresent Christianity.

2007-02-22 13:30:48 · answer #2 · answered by koresh419 5 · 3 0

How do you explain the prophecy that the Jewish people would be scattered throughout the whole world and then would be brought back to Israel to be reestablished as a nation?

What are the chances that would happen? For a people to keep their identity for almost 2000 years and then return back to their land is an amazing fulfillment of that prophecy.

The lands that are prophecied to attack them in the last days are now all muslim and aligned with the muslim nations. At the time of the prophecies many of these nations were neutral or even allies of Israel. Their is no way that the authors of these prophecies could have known that Islam would come on the scene a thousand years later and turn all of these people into enemies of Israel intent on destroying them.

These prophecies are amazing and extremely accurate to today's current events. Enough for me to believe that it is more than just made up stories.

2007-02-22 13:48:36 · answer #3 · answered by akoloutheo2 2 · 0 1

If Jesus did not have free will then how do you explain his prayer in the Garden of Gethsemane?
Matthew 26:39
"My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as You will."
Obviously, Jesus' will was different from God's. Jesus did not want to go and be tortured and die a horribly painful death, but he submitted his will to the will of the Father in order to pay for our sins. Do a little more research before stating something like that next time.

2007-02-22 13:45:44 · answer #4 · answered by real illuminati(Matt) 3 · 1 0

Psa 14:1 To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David. The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psa 14:2 The LORD looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God.
Psa 14:3 They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

2007-02-22 13:31:50 · answer #5 · answered by Lovee 2 · 1 0

Who said Jesus wasn't born with a free will? He certainly was. Otherwise the temptation by Satan would've been a farce if He didn't have free will to resist. He came as a man with a free will and was tested as we are but chose to do what was right in every instance.

2007-02-22 13:32:20 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

How do you know Jesus didn't have free will? Why can't he be God, born in the flesh, with free will?

Sheep don't have free will?

Jesus claimed to be the Shepherd, not a sheep.

I am not trying to be a sheep, I am like sheep, and have gone astray.

2007-02-22 13:34:53 · answer #7 · answered by super Bobo 6 · 2 0

I'm glad I'm a sheep.
I have a Good Shepherd to watch over me.
If your not a sheep, then you don't have a shepherd, you are on your own.
You have to pay for your own. Good luck, you are not going to make it.

Blind as you are. You live up to the prophesy.
Isa 6:9 And He said, "Go, and tell this people: 'Keep on listening, but do not perceive; Keep on looking, but do not understand.'
Isa 6:10 "Render the hearts of this people insensitive, Their ears dull, And their eyes dim, Lest they see with their eyes, Hear with their ears, Understand with their hearts, And return and be healed."

2007-02-22 13:39:23 · answer #8 · answered by chris p 6 · 2 0

ummm........? God loves us He sent Jesus as His own visible image to show us how much He loves us, to teach us the road to salvation. We cannot be in the presence of God when we are with sin He does not recognize us, therefore when we become one with Christ God recognizes us as being one with Him. It is an easy deed a free gift.

2007-02-22 13:32:28 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

Most of these posters probably have no idea the Bible was written more than 100 years AFTER Jesus died. How true can it really be??

2007-02-22 14:16:50 · answer #10 · answered by Mermaid500 1 · 0 1

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