why my 3mth old lab has bloody n runny stools?

Question

when we first got her she did 1 normal poo, then after it just got worse. we took her for her second needle and was refused because of this problem and was told to give her scrambled egg and some medicine called pro-kolin+ which hasnt worked at all. we tried new different food. complete, mixer but still no luck, we also wormed her too but that still hasnt worked. someone mentioned that pedigree puppy food is quite rich and could be causing this. any ideas what we can try. im trying to refrain from taking her back to the vet as we think hes just trying to fob us off by paying more money to give us stuff that doesnt work. i would be greatful for any comments. cheers, matt

when we first got her she did 1 normal poo, then after it just got worse. we took her for her second needle and was refused because of this problem and was told to give her scrambled egg and some medicine called pro-kolin+ which hasnt worked at all. we tried new different food. complete, mixer but still no luck, we also wormed her too but that still hasnt worked. someone mentioned that pedigree puppy food is quite rich and could be causing this. any ideas what we can try. im trying to refrain from taking her back to the vet as we think hes just trying to fob us off by paying more money to give us stuff that doesnt work. i would be greatful for any comments. cheers, matt

also. when we got her she was being fed the royal canin food the breeder had given her but her stools were still runny someone also mentioned a change in water might have done it as i got her from 35-40 miles away

Answer 1

Take her to another vet. Ask friends etc. which vets they use and are they satisfied. Your puppy is still a baby, and they can go downhill very rapidly. I wish you luck.

Answer 2

No - get her to the vet she is seriously ill. Blood in the stools of any animal means enteritis, loss of fluids and if not treated, death.
If you don't like the vet you have already seen then go somwhere else but you must go today, tomorrow may be too late.
I will be thinking about you (and please add to your question to let us know how you get on)

I have three dogs and so do not spend any more money at the vet that I absolutely have to. Runny stools don't worry me BUT BLOODY STOOLS that's a different issue. I would be on the phone demanding the earliest possible appointment as they can be a symptom of so many serious complaints. Added to that you are talking about a three month old puppy. It is like a baby having an illness - if it is bad they go downhill so much faster than an adult.
The people on this group are not veterinary experts which is why quite a lot of us are saying get a second opinion. It might as some say be nothing - but with a puppy, if it is something the delay could prove fatal.

Answer 3

Forget messing about with the food - you are probably doing more harm than good.

If you, your partner or your children were showing these symptoms - passing blood and chronic diarrhoea would you think it was OK just to change your brand of bread or peas or vegetable or whatever else you eat?

The blood indicates that there is probably inflammation and/or infection in the pup's digestive system which is bound to be causing it pain and discomfort.

Your pup can dehydrate through losing so much fluid and die.

Most Vets don't just 'fob you off' - they have to make a living and charge for their services but I can't see any Vet that I have ever dealt with allowing a puppy to suffer just so that they can make a bit more cash.

If you have a dog you have to accept responsibility for it and see that it gets the care it needs not 'refrain' from seeing a Vet!

Take the dog to the Vet and be adult enough to ask for a second opinion if you are not satisfied with the treatment.

Answer 4

The kitty litter - was it the clumping variety? If so the little mite may have an impaction. The clumping litter increases in size by 60% and if the little one eats it, it will do the same in his digestive tract. No kitten should have blood in it stool, it is an indication of all is not well. Nor should they have runny stools. Often for bouts of diarrhea some natural yogurt with slippery elm in it helps - so long as there is no infection. The blood and runny stools can also be caused by worms and at 7 weeks of age he should be wormed every two weeks until he is 12 weeks of age. If he hasn't ask the vet to do it for you. If the vet finds an infection and prescribes anti-biotics, give the little one some natural yogurt to put back the good bacteria in his gut. The anti-biotics will kill all the bacteria, including the good ones

Answer 5

if in doubt visit the vet, but puppies get stressed when they move house and they poo, if you change their food or its too rich and you change it again they poo more, if they keep pooing the butt gets sore and blood appears. if the first vet you were with did not worry about parvo and your dog is not dead or showing other symtoms i should not worry unduly about that. change of water and area will not affect your dog although some dogs refuse to drink water from other areas because of the different tastes. would recommend putting pup back on original food the breeder had it on dry but with water available several small meals a day literally a handful at a time try and set a routine, give it a week to settle, don't take it out if it is under the weather it will be more vulnerable to everything. try adding a little live yoghurt or a dog probiotic to replace lost gut bacteria small amounts again. if the blood in the poo becomes a lot more not just a few drops or a slight colouring or the dog shows other symptoms, listlessness (puppies should be bouncy), other discharges or if it becomes dehydrated whatever, i wouldn't unduly worry unless something changes if it does don't wait take it to the vet

Answer 6

My recommendation is to put your pup onto a "bland" diet for a few days. This is usually boiled chicken (no bones). You need to monitor your pup very closely as they cannot afford the waterloss associated with diarrhoea. Blood in stools is usually attributed to hookworm so perhaps re-worm to be on the safeside. I would also see another vet to get another opinion as I personally don't think scrambled egg is the best diet to prevent diarrhoea, and you can get tablets (different to the one you mentioned) that prevent it. Alternatively you can get prescription diets (eg I/D Hills) which are specifically to stop diarrhoea. It is really important that these are temporary as your pup needs to be fed a normal, complete pup diet as soon as possible.
I would avoid pedigree wherever possible, as well as all over foods bought at the supermark or the cheap-end products. The are reknown for upsetting pups (and dogs) stomachs. Try a premium food and stick to it - this is really important - you should not swap and change foods as this upsets the gut-flora in the pups stomach (which is still developing) and causes the diarrhoea and vomiting. I would try a pup formalae such as Royal Canin Lab Junior - this is specifically for labs and actually has ingredients that "bind" the stools (such as psillium, beet-pulb etc), help develop the gut-flora (pre and pro-biotics) as well being a far better product that pedigree. Avoid feeding canned food - this will upset the stomach more, as well as being around 50-80% water! Premium foods are more expensive to purchase that pedigree, however you will actually save money in the long-term, as you feed farless and will have less trips to the vet!
I would also try feeding smaller meals, more regularly - this should also help stop any scoffing, which can lead to vomitting.
Good luck and I hope this helps!

Answer 7

I have just been dealing with this problem with my 9 week old puppy.
It must have had the problem before it came home. We were given the same medication as you. He was also too underweight to have his first injection. The vet told us to give him plain chicken and rice for a while, which we did and the problem in just a week has cleared up. We're going to introduce him to puppy tinned food gradually but revert back if he gets worse again. The worming tablet didn't do the trick. Just the diet. Saved us a lot of money in medication so far, touch wood. Hope this helps. Good luck.(He is not seriously ill. The vet told us its very common)

Answer 8

I had the same problems with my King Charles puppy recently. A change in water can cause problems, but I would recommend changing her food to either James Wellbeloved or Burns as they are both designed for sensitive tummies. Another thing you need to bear in mind is that when you change the foods over, you need to do it gradually and for sensitive tummys over a period of 10-11 days approx. It can also take between 3-4weeks for a tummy to settle down also, so give it time before trying other things. You can buy diarhoea tablets from pet shops which help and can be given to puppies over 12 weeks old.

Answer 9

Have you thought of trying another vet? Make sure you tell him the history of medication (keeping copies of bills in a folder is a good idea).

Can you find out what she was being fed before she arrived with you? If the first poo was normal that food must have been ok for her.

I'd really check with another vet, but maybe you'll have to put her on chicken and rice or something bland for a few days. Again - check with another vet.

Answer 10

My sister has a French bulldog, suffering from the same problem. She like you, went numerous times, changing the diet, etc. She changed vets and after several test, found out that her "baby" had hook worms {she uses Revolution--not anymore}. They also found that because it was untreated for so long the pup had developed cholitis. He is better now, no more blood in the stool. She still gives him a special dry food, but I don't know the name. Any ways, hope this helps and your pup gets better. Good luck.

Answer 11

i have a choc lab and i had exactly the same problem.
my vet prescibe pro-kolin, your right it doesnt work.
it is stomach lineing and doesnt do anything for the bleeding.
yes a change of water does make their poo runny as do changing their food. they also get blood in it if they are stressed, and if they are stranin.g pedigree food seems to be ok for mine and it wasnt the same stuff the people gave him at my pedigree place.
chicken and rice is a brilliant way to see if it is the food- boil fresh chicken and boil white rice, as that solidifies their bowels.
i used to get pedigree chicken rice and veg food for him and that made it worse, but the food that is just chicken and rice does perfectly and mine stopped haveing runny poo at 5 to 6 mounths. although if they eat crap that they shouldnt you may find the odd runny one!
most puppies have runny poo up to 6 mounths.
good luck and be carefull of vets as some do tend to over-react and that means more money and stress for you!