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Given that God created everything, who created God?
Prophet Muhammad predicted that this question would one day be raised as he correctly predicted a great many future events of importance. On one occasion he said:

A day will certainly come when some people will sit with their legs crossed and ask: ‘Given that God created everything, who created God?’ (Bukhari, ‘I‘tisam,’ 3).

Those who put such questions are generally atheists or inclined to atheism and seek to lead others astray also. The purpose of their question is possibly to avoid the responsibilities owed by us to the Creator; belief and worship. At best, the question is derived from the observation of (what are taken to be) ‘cause and effect’ relationships. Every circumstance can be thought of as an ‘effect’ and attributed to an antecedent circumstance or ‘cause’ which, in turn, is attributed to some circumstance antecedent to it, and so on. In the first place, it is obvi­ous to anyone who reasons objectively that the notion of ‘cause’ is only an hypothesis, it has no objective exis­tence: all that objectively exists is a particular, often (but not always) repeated sequence of circumstances. Secondly, if this hypothesis is applied to existence as a whole, we cannot find a creator of it because each creator must have a creator before that creator, in a never-ending chain. (In fact, the futile notion of a never-ending chain of creators was one of the arguments used by Mus­lim theologians to explain the necessity of believing in God.)

The Creator must be Self-Subsistent and One, without like or equal.

It is self-evident that the Creator must be Self-Subsistent and One, without like or equal. If any created being can be said to ‘cause’ anything, that capacity to ‘cause’ was itself created within that being. Thus, no being in the universe can be said to be self-existent; rather, it owes its existence to the Creator who alone is Self-Existent as well as Self-Subsistent. It follows from the fact that the Creator alone truly creates that for each and every being He has determined all possible ‘causes’ and ‘effects’, all things whatever that come before or after it. Therefore, we speak of God as the Sustainer, who holds and gives life to His Creation from first to last. All ‘causes’ have their beginning in Him, and all ‘effects’ find their ending in Him. In truth, created things are no more than so many ciphers or zeros which, no matter how many we put in a series, add up to nothing, unless a positive ‘one’ is placed before the series to give it value. In just this way, the creation could have no real existence, nor any value, except by God.

What we call ‘causes’ have no direct or independent influence in existence, no direct or independent ‘effects’. It may be that we need to speak of ‘causes and effects’ in order to understand how, in a short space and over a lit­tle period of time, some part of the Creation is made (by the Mercy of God) intelligible to us and available to us for our use. But even this but confirms our dependence upon God and our answerability before Him. It is not God who needs ‘causes and effects’ to create; rather it is we who need ‘causes and effects’ to understand what He has created. He alone is the First and the Last, the Eternal, the Initiator and the Determiner—and all our busy little efforts after cause and effect are but veils between ourselves and His Majesty.

Let us then affirm once more: He, God, is One; God, the Self-Subsistent, Eternally-Besought-of-All; He neither begets nor was begotten; and nothing whatever is like unto Him.

2007-02-21 12:18:23 · 21 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

21 answers

hey its more of a answer tan a question!!!
good way to use 5 points.
nevertheless, very informative.
thanks!

2007-02-21 12:26:49 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

god is begotten (has and always will be)
god according to most religious text should also not be tested
it would also be prudant to understand that no matter how you look at this the main point is god versus science if theres no god how did the universe start for example if you were to take to peas and put them inside a box the size of the solar system what would the probility be of them ever actually hitting then put that into a another context two atom sized paticles and put them inside something as big as the universe and then calculate the posibbilty of them ever hitting each other and then how they got there in the first place.
leading me to say again that god had to have created those particles otherwise there would have been no universe
god = religion
god = an uknow event
this answer is neither ment as a religious or non religios comment but a personal belief i have

2007-02-21 12:46:00 · answer #2 · answered by jason s 1 · 0 0

If you would care to read the book 'The God Delusion' by Richard Dawkins, there are some convincing arguments as to why the idea of a supreme Creator is virtually impossible.

One argument is as follows: Simply put, theists believe that complex things could not have come about by chance and therefore must have been designed and created. But in order for a Creator to have created such complex things, it also must be so complex as to require a designer and creator. But apparently God does not have a creator, and theists are yet to put forward an argument for how God terminates this infinite regress other than "he just is and always has been". Personally I think that is a pretty weak and small-minded argument.

2007-02-21 13:39:24 · answer #3 · answered by God Fears Me 3 · 0 1

There is something called the Kalam arguement. It has 3 parts.

1. Everything that has a beginning has a cause

2. The universe has a beginning

3. The universe has a cause

This is an explanation of God.

But, who created God, you ask.

Remember everything that has a BEGINNING has a cause.

Christians believe that God is infinite and has existed forever

Therefore, God does not need a cause.

Remember, supporters of the big bang theory say
IN THE BEGINNING THERE WAS DUST
(because they say the dust for the big bang was always there)

Christians like me say
IN THE BEGINNING THERE WAS GOD

2007-02-21 12:44:45 · answer #4 · answered by cubby 2 · 0 0

You have answered your own question and I agree with it. God always was and always will be. What else would we expect from the One who created the world and all that is in it.
The question itself could go on infinitely, which is why someone has to be from eternity past. If A created God, who created A? If B created A who created God, who created B?
We should not seek to limit the infinite, eternal, almighty God, even though we do so to TRY to comprehend Him. Accept Him first.

2007-02-21 12:32:28 · answer #5 · answered by Bob T 6 · 0 0

God is self-existent|

It is His very nature to exist|

It is this property of self-existence that theologians and philosophers have termed *aseity|*


We can illustrate this through example|

All finite things are composed of an "essence" - |a "what" it is| - and an "existence" - |a "that" it is|

We can see this in the fact that any finite thing that happens to exist, need not to| This is the *contingency* of all finite things|


But with God, His essence is His own existence| It is God's very nature to exist| In this, God is not contingent, but *necessary|*

Traditionally, He has been defined as |Being Itself| - without limitations - thus having infinite attributes|

That is why His name is I AM - Ex. 3:14|


He is the Ultimate, Primordial, Necessary Being, who Himself does not need a cause, but on whom all other things depend|




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2007-02-21 12:44:37 · answer #6 · answered by Catholic Philosopher 6 · 0 0

God said in his Holy Book, in the beginning there was naught but darkness.

Thus before all things, before GOD there was darkness, what created the darkness? A more supreme more Self Sufficent deity who created god. Know who it was? It was me.


Get a life, and stop spouting religeous arguments you are too young to understand, to dumb to realize it had been used in debates in the 1920s, and to brainwashed to feel anything but rage at this answer.

2007-02-21 12:32:46 · answer #7 · answered by Tom 3 · 0 0

no ****, just like light and energy, it's all synergy, it's energy that creates itself. one cannot fully captivate God in our primitive mind states, we must free ourselves from this flesh to truelly expand our conciousness, to truelly cromprehend and be a "part" of God.


there's just soo much confusion when people label God as "God" and nothing more, just another man, just another thing, just another label or term like the word "bike." They do not understand that God is greater than that and that you cannot fully explain every facet of his great being. the words i use cannot even come close to express just how great God is, and the how he can also be the opposite of that, in the form of NOTHING.

The universe is just too perfect, too calculated to be a coincidence. at least it is right now, since we're living and breathing, kinda makes you wonder why we're only here for a short time, but also gives you an idea that God "planned" and created all this, and to him time is nothing, to us it is everything.

Millions of years of evolution have brought us to the point where we're at now. the human body is AMAZING, all that time just to build up our immune systems, to be able to eat and drink and build and doo many incredible things... and people still claim God does not love them... you should be ashamed to even be alive, but you should really be THANKFUL.

2007-02-21 12:35:35 · answer #8 · answered by db death db 2 · 0 1

That is the amazing thing about God. He is "eternal" -- which means he always was alive and always will be!

I think your question is one that everyone thinks sometimes. We do not have the "intelligence" or capability to understand everything about God, yet I have no doubt that God is here.

(if God had the power to create you and me and the animals, trees, flowers, etc. He has the power to do anything!)

2007-02-23 07:45:50 · answer #9 · answered by ♥honey♥ 4 · 0 1

Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God....
He is the beginning. before him was nothing without him there is nothing. He is and always will be the alpha and the omega. the beginning and the end. We think to concrete to even begin to understand the true complexity of it all don't we.
God is beyond anything we can ever imagine.

2007-02-21 12:33:59 · answer #10 · answered by momof2 5 · 1 1

Probably the same thing that created the big bang

Sorry for not reading your sermon... nothing personal, but I'm a busy man.

2007-02-21 12:22:27 · answer #11 · answered by DonSoze 5 · 3 1

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