we never know!! we the christians are not worry if Christ ,God, salvation or hell, don't exist!! but you guys have a lot more to loose! than us, if it's true, think about it
2007-02-21 09:02:05 · 31 answers · asked by Not Of This World 3 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
And Pascal's Wager pops up yet AGAIN!
Do you guys have any better arguments thatn this long-debunked claim?
2007-02-21 09:05:56 · answer #1 · answered by Scott M 7 · 4⤊ 0⤋
This the argument the christians always resort to when they've been beaten. Although they never acknowledge the fact that they have lost the argument, this is a clear sign that they have.
If the only reason you believe is 'just in case' then you really don't have much substance to your beliefs at all. And you have even more to worry about than we do, the ultimate let down. The fact that, the thing you've spent your whole life beleiving in and worshiping was all for nothing. The ***** of it is you won't be concious to realize it.
And of course, if God is real, and I go to hell, then he's just given proof that he doesn't love everyone, he just sent a good person to hell because he didn't beleive in God in a world were there are so many reasons to suggest you shouldn't beleive. Therefore if God does exisit, then the God your worshiping isn't the true God, and you need to go join the Westboro Baptist Church (God Hates America/God Hates Fags people).
10$ says you don't pick this as best answer. Best answer will be along the lines of 'OMG! God is so real, they should so beleive like just in case lol'
(sorry that was cynical)
2007-02-21 09:12:03 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
It isn't possible to cover all the different bets without violating the terms of some of them.
Oh, you're assuming there's only atheism and christianity aren't you?
There are hundreds of different religions with the major ones divided into hundreds if not thousands of substantially different permutations. Add the thousands of dead religions to the mix as well, no living adherents doesn't constitute proof of invalidity.
Your suggestion is as ridiculous as suggesting that I write them all down and throw a dart while blindfolded to decide which one is right.
I'm no more worried about supernatural afterlife concepts than I am about getting sodomized by mermaids.
P.S.- Your writing is painfully bad. Put your bible down and study english a bit more. Capitalization errors, bad punctuation, horrible syntax. You should take a big pile of your writings, a handgun and a box of ammunition to visit all your old english teachers. I can't say what the outcome would be, but it's a win win situation any way the dice falls.
P.P.S.- So ridiculously unsound in language and concept...
Hmm, are you a satirical atheist?
2007-02-21 10:54:41 · answer #3 · answered by corvis_9 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I hate Pascal's Wager. It overlooks the fact that an atheist would cease to be an atheist if provided proof.
Consider this. I don't believe that God exists, because I have no proof.
So I die and it turns out I was wrong. Oh, no. God exists. What's that? Proof. At that point, am I still a non-believer? Nope.
So you say that I can lie my way in. My way is better. If I'm proven wrong, I will believe, and I'll get in that way.
2007-02-21 09:09:06 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 4⤊ 0⤋
Pascal's Wager is a BAD argument.
1) It assumes that there are only 2 options: Christ or nothing. This is a False Dichotomy (a logical fallacy). There are, in fact, many MORE possibilities. There are literally 1000's of gods that we could "bet on"... why leave them out? Why shouldn't we take our chances with one of the OTHER options?
2) It assumes that, if a god ends up existing, this god rewards belief. Who's to say this god cares??
3) It assumes that this god wouldn't be able to tell that "betting on god" isn't real belief at all. Simply saying what this "god" wants to hear isn't true belief.
2007-02-21 09:04:26 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 9⤊ 0⤋
Why do you guys post this same easily refuted crap 15 times a day and everyone of you still take a smug tone like you're the first Christian Einstein to think of this "fire insurance proposition?"
Well Christian, what do you do when you die and find out Zeus is god, Hercules his only son, and you're going to hell becuase you didn't make sacrifices at the foot of Mt. Olympus? Shouldn't you worship Zeus and Odin and all the other gods just in case?
Don't urge me to "think about" anything until you've tried it for yourself, which your post indicates you never have.
2007-02-21 09:13:51 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
medical actuality: an commentary that has been shown many times and is prevalent as actual (in spite of the reality that its fact is under no circumstances very final). medical evidence: medical evidence is evidence which serves to the two help or counter a medical theory or hypothesis. without a medical evidence or clarification, it fairly is an unscientific declare. i do no longer think of that technological know-how explains 'each thing', it does clarify issues nonetheless extra effectual than being committed. i've got not got faith that a novel college of theory explains 'each thing', I do have faith a college of theory is the extra valid determination (as antagonistic to a college of prayer). A church isn't a 'college of theory' and lacks evidence. thank you for admitting you're loss of evidence for the existence of 'God'. Edit: I pronounced i will no longer be able to tutor it to you(non-believers), who will in simple terms settle for medical evidence. -the different 'evidence' could be a lie, a hoax, etc. If it fairly is not medical evidence, it fairly isn't any longer evidence in any respect. Do you have a dermis pattern of 'Allah' i will play with in my lab?
2016-10-16 04:52:33 · answer #7 · answered by ? 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
No, thanks.
If ever believed this crap, I'd have to shoot myself :
Rev chap 4
And the four living creatures, each of them with six wings, are full of eyes all round and within,
Revelation, chapter 6
13: and the stars of the sky fell to the earth as the fig tree sheds its winter fruit when shaken by a gale;
rev chap 7
After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth, that no wind might blow on earth or sea or against any tree.
2007-02-21 09:08:11 · answer #8 · answered by lilith 7 · 3⤊ 0⤋
We have nothing to loose.
If the Hindus are right we are ok because Hinduism allows for atheism
If the Buddhists are right we are ok
If the Jews are right we are ok
If the Pagans are right we are ok
If the wiccans are right we are ok
If anybody except the Christians and Muslims are right we are just fine.
But my friend if the Jews are right then you have broken one of the 10 commandments and worshipped a man before God. Good thing you're not Jewish.
2007-02-21 09:06:26 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 7⤊ 0⤋
Oooh! At last! Pascal's Wager!
I'll meet your wager and raise you "Drange's Argument from Non-belief"!
Here you go!
1) If God exists, God:
wants all humans to believe he exists before they die so they may enter heaven;
can bring about a situation in which all humans believe he exists before they die;
does not want anything which would conflict with or be as important as his desire for all humans to believe he exists before they die; and
always acts in accordance with what he most wants.
2) If God exists, therefore all humans would believe before they die (from 1).
3) But not all humans do believe God exists before they die.
4) Therefore, God does not exist (from 2 and 3).
Go figure.
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2007-02-21 10:27:29 · answer #10 · answered by Nobody 5 · 2⤊ 0⤋
My issue is not that I don't believe in God, I just apparently don't believe in the same one you do or bible god. In addition I think your exclusion doctrine is wrong Now what if you are wrong and I am right? Do you still have nothing to loose?
2007-02-21 09:13:27 · answer #11 · answered by cj 4 · 2⤊ 0⤋