christians and mormons! can you explain these two verses?

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http://scriptures.lds.org/en/gal/4/27#27 desolate women will have more children than the ones with husbands.
http://scriptures.lds.org/en/luke/20/35#35
http://scriptures.lds.org/en/matt/22/30#30

ok this is how i see it, if a woman doesnt have a husband, but yet is promised more children than those that dont have a husband, how does she have children without being married? This is fornication and the bed is defiled...

truly i have always believed as one person answered that marriage in the ressurection applies to the next life, and that having children is not a metaphor but a promise that jesus made to those that are single through no fault of their own. But even still someone else believes that the many children spoken of in the promise of Jesus refers to children something like being a teacher and not a Mother, or a wife.

All the variations of answers prove to me that Not everyone listens to spirit of God, no matter who is Correct and speaks the truth.

Answer 1

it is insanely logical if you have faith......

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Answer 2

Perhaps if you read the verses before your quoted verse you would see Sarah illustrates the New Covanent of Faith and her children are those who have come to Christ by faith (born again)

This is a perfect example, seen way too often, of people taking verses out of context.


Abraham’s Two Children
Gal 4:21 Tell me, you who want to live under the law, do you know what the law actually says? 22 The Scriptures say that Abraham had two sons, one from his slave wife and one from his freeborn wife.[g] 23 The son of the slave wife was born in a human attempt to bring about the fulfillment of God’s promise. But the son of the freeborn wife was born as God’s own fulfillment of his promise.
24 These two women serve as an illustration of God’s two covenants. The first woman, Hagar, represents Mount Sinai where people received the law that enslaved them. 25 And now Jerusalem is just like Mount Sinai in Arabia,[h] because she and her children live in slavery to the law. 26 But the other woman, Sarah, represents the heavenly Jerusalem. She is the free woman, and she is our mother. 27 As Isaiah said,

“Rejoice, O childless woman,
you who have never given birth!
Break into a joyful shout,
you who have never been in labor!
For the desolate woman now has more children
than the woman who lives with her husband!”[i]

Answer 3

This is Isaiah 54:1 as quoted in Galatians 4:27. If you read Galatians 4:21-31, the answer is given to you: the bondswoman (Hagar) had one son by Abraham; her son Ishmael brought forth many peoples. However, Abraham's barren wife (Sarah) was told by God that she would have a son (Isaac), regardless of the fact that she was barren. Isaac fathered Jacob (renamed Israel by God). Jesus Christ was born of the direct line of Jacob, through King David, exactly as prophesied in the Old Testament.

In the fullness of time, Jesus' gospel was opened to gentiles after it had been given to the Jews. Today, anyone who believes in Jesus as Lord and Savior is reconciled to God -- these people are also considered Abraham and Sarah's spiritual children. This is a HUGE number of people!!

Therefore, the children of Sarah (a barren woman) FAR outnumbers the children of Hagar. No fornication on Sarah's part was involved.

Answer 4

O may God lead me to give you the answer He want to give you. The second and third piece you refered to is both referring to exactly the same thing but just through the eyes and ears and mouth of two different apostle's. In short in heaven there will not be marriage. We will be all God's children. Now the second part refer back to the prophetic words of Isaiah 54. God said through his Word that says that Jerusalem is our (God's children) heavenly mother and the woman (city) once was called barren now have more children than any other woman. God Bless

Answer 5

An interesting note for Beta fishy - correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me that our eternal marriages don't happen in heaven - they happen here on earth, and are made eternal because of the power God gives to some that "what they shall seal (or bind) on earth, shall also be sealed (or bound) in heaven,"

I often wonder about people that quote those verses - what I wonder is - do they not want to be with their husband or wife in the next life? Do they want to be right about this just for the sake of proving someone wrong?

Oh, and I think diver was right on about the women having children verses.

Answer 6

Galatians 4:27 is explained by the fact that the apostle Paul compares the relationship of Jehovah to the nation of Israel represented by its capital city Jerusalem to that of a husband and a concubine (making him the husbandly "owner" of her). Therefore, Hagar represents the nation of fleshly Israel, which was eventually driven out along with her offspring. Since fleshly Israel rejected the legitimate son and her child (Ishmael who represents the fleshly Israelites were persecuting the natural heir).

Paul also likens Jehovah to the husband of a free wife, the "Jerusalem above," who is the "mother" of spirit-begotten Christians, as Abraham was husband to Sarah. Paul reveals that anointed Christians (those of the "little flock") are children of the "barren woman" (like Sarah was barren for so many years), whom he calls "Jerusalem above". This figurative woman consists of God's heavenly organization of spirit creatures. Whereas natural Israel was born "in the manner of flesh," those making up spiritual Israel "are children belonging to the promise the same as Isaac was." Isaiah and the psalmist (Psalm 113:9)prophesied of a barren woman whose reproach and shame are to be forgotten, for she will bring forth many sons, all of them taught by Jehovah.

The other 2 scriptures: Luke 20:35 and Matthew 22:30 are referring to those of the "little flock" who will be resurrected (during the first resurrection) to heavenly life to rule as kings and priests with Christ. They will have no physical bodies and will therefore not have physical relationships or bear children in a fleshly sense.

Answer 7

The Gallatians(sp?) verse is a metaphor. It says that Jerusalem will have many followers, while the cities that follow fleshly desires will have fewer.

The Luke and Matthew verses are talking about the second coming of Jesus, when he brings back to earth all those who had died. They are saying that those who had died will not remarry and have children when they return, only those who had not died will marry and have children.

Answer 8

Maybe it means exactly what it says. The Lord is one. He is the only Savior. He is the only Redeemer. He is the One. For some reason, people want to make it harder than it really is. It makes perfect sense that there is one Supreme Being, who is God the Father. It makes perfect sense that He sent His Son, His Only Begotten, perfect Son, to show us how to live, love, and be the sacrifice, the perfect Lamb, for the sins of the world. It also makes perfect sense that because God nor Christ would be on this earth all the time, that they would send the Holy Ghost, who's main job is to confirm truths. They are three beings, all with one purpose, one love, one goal. To bring to pass the immortality and eternal life of man.

Answer 9

You must read that chapter in context.

The previous verses referred to Hagar and Sarah. Sarah was the legal wife with the promised child, Isaac. Hagar was a bondmaid, not the offiicial wife of Abraham, yet her son Ishmael was promised to her by God, and who (Ishamael) would later have numerous descendants.

This is exactly true today. The Jews are a minority in the lands of the arab muslims. And this agrees with the concept that the Jews are the chosen people of God. Even in the new testament it asks "who is the true jew?" And then refers that title to those who are jewish at heart.

There are other prophesies too in the bible. If you bother to read carefully you will see them all coming true.

Answer 10

Did you look at the footnotes? :-)

These scriptures are all talking about the life hereafter. It is promising women who do not have the opportunity for families in this life that they will eventually have that opportunity. The verses that talk about marriage not occurring after this life are referring to temporal (i.e. not eternal) marriages or in otherwords, "Till Death Do You Part" marriages. Fortunately, God has prepared a way for all people to be sealed to their families through eternal marriage and He also provides an opportunity for eternal growth and increase.

You're looking at things from an entirely mortal perspective. Step back and see how much more those verses are really saying...

Answer 11

OK...first for the desolate women...women who has no children were considered desolate But women without children often taught children and became basically like a mother to them. I refer to the girls I've taught as my girls and can't even number them but I get hugs from them whenever I see them.

About the not being married...that was in reference to those who choose not to marry so they can instead focus on the word of God and His ministry.