If muslim women never want to be seen as sex objects or objects of lust etc. Why not ban marriage and families

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If muslim women never want to be seen as sex objects or objects of lust etc. Why not ban marriage and families?

Ie talk about burkas being to stop sexaul objectifying and lust

Ie if you want no man to fancy you and want to date you or think you are attractive or love you etc.

That should include husbands... why not get rid of marriage all togehter if sex and feelings are so bad.

Ie everyone be like non sexaul robots with no feelings or emotions and only one sex where babies are mass produced in test tubes and nobody ever shares any affection whatsoever.


Of cause this means women cant see guys as attracive either



the same can apply to any relgious group.


its just islam takes it the furthest

How is anyone supposed to fall in love or be attracted to anyoen they cant see and develop feeling for.



If ONLY a brain or personality...


Well thats what a mate is... ie a buddy. Not somone you have any feelings or affection for. Like they are gay

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Someone mentioned it was so only the husband sees her as sexaul...


but sorry thats still lust and sexaul objectification/...

Be it by one peron or many.


If you dont want to be seen as a sex object or lustfully you must never have sex with anyone and die a virgin and never kiss, hug or show affection in any way.

Lust and love are the same thing... its just lust is the early stage.


no lust at the start then no love as always mates.


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covering yourself doesnt have to do with love. its self respect. i wouldnt want a man staring down my shirt looking at my breasts everytime i go out

So what about girls staring at muscells.?

Whats wrong with both sexes being attracted to the other?


Thats all it is. why not take it as a compliment that guys think you have nive boobs just like us guys would like it if girls thougth we were hot and hunky?


How can it be self respectful to want to be seen as ugy.

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Oh and why assume the wmoan is married. if nobody finds her attractive how are they supposed to find husbands... or even just boyfriends...


If not attactive then should they never be wanted sexaully by anyone... ever.

Razy ie mr no name with the list.


1. In the past women were degraded and used as objects of lust


Erm lust? you mean sexaul attraction in the same way girls are attractive to hunky guys like Brad Pitt?

If you look at greek mythology there are strong woemn and woemn gods as there are women roman gods.


2. Islam uplifted women and gave them equality and expects them to maintain their status.


So explain then why girls are only treated unequally nowadays in islamic countires. Why in the west they have equal rights for any jobs, or dress or joining clubs etc.?

+ why many bosses are female, and doctors, & in education etc.?


Yet in islamic nations they cant drive or even walk around without husbands, bros or fathers?

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The moment a man looks at a woman and if any brazen or unashamed thought comes to his mind, he should lower his gaze.


Why feel shame? you just like the person thats all.



You did not say why guys are allowed to show their face?

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if nature intended men and woemn to hide the fact they are men and woemn why not make us look the same and have no feelings?

Likeiwise why did woemn have a face in nature if not supposed to show it ? and why make girls look different./

4 Seems to just keep sexes apart and stop love

5. Hijaab prevents molestation

Er no. How come then on a beach all the girls in the west in bikinis are not molested or in swimming pools, or in nudist camps?


you just need to teach guys to behave and ask or get implied permission first. Likewise the other way around.


Or teach girls self defence.


If all girls new krav maga or ninjitsu or Mauy Thai then they could walk around naked and **** anying who tried to molest them

6. Example of twin sisters

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Whom will he tease? The girl wearing the Islamic Hijaab or the girl wearing the skirt or the mini? Naturally he will tease the girl wearing the skirt or the mini. Such dresses are an indirect invitation to the opposit

sex for teasing and molestation.


NO NO NO it is not in any way... Its those guys who are in the wrong not the girl... All siad miniskirt should do is make the girl attractive which helps her find a boyfriend or potential husband or just compnay and to make freinds.


its the burka girl who will be seen as non human and no freinds, nobody would care for and notbody see as a person in any way... just a blob as no human features or communication.

Therefore thats backwards.


Plus as said if taught self defence she could get one in a pain hold and extract an aplogy. Whilst the burka girl could be stripped and attacked as not see as human as no human features.

7. Capital punishment for the rapists

There you have a point only...


you also have capital punishment for having a boyfriend, falling in love defining sex outside marriage,

And honour killings so is it you dont like your propertly played with or really care? as if really cared why the honour killings and

asonings for falling in love.


if really loved sisters or daughter would be over the moon she had a bf and was happy.

8. Western society falsely claims to have uplifted women

Again another lie.

Woemn can get the same jobs, ask guys out, earn the same, have all the same rights as guys inc driving which not allows in islamic countires.


Also like guys driving flashy cars can use sexaulity to emplower them over guys and manipulate guys...


you need to hang out with girls mates... they like that power not see it as exploitation.

Plus honuor is not cheating people.

And shes expoiting guys with her body not the other way around.

9. USA has one of the highest rates of rape

No that would be the islamic world with child marriage and foreced arranged marriage which counts as rape.


You just have legalised rape


Consider a scenario where the Islamic hijaab is followed in America.
will the rate of rape in America increase, will it remain the same, or will

Actually it would go up as guys o longer see girls as human or with feelings as seen thoguh faces and being friends with and mixing.


then they would see them as there to make babies and be controlled as in the islamic world.

In the west a wife or girlfirend or even date is an extention of a friend.


So actually it would go up as no love you just have legalised rape in forced arranged marriages.


10. Implementation of Islamic Shariah will reduce the rate of rapes... Naturally as soon as Islamic Shariah is implemented positive results will be inevitable. If Islamic Shariah is implemented in any part of the world,



No it would just introduce horrors like female genital mutilation, and see girls pulled from all their jobs and universtiy places , imprisioned in the home under control as baby production units where if they fall in love or try and control their sex lifes or have a love life they would be hun or executed by stoning beheading or hanging like shaira land

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let me ask u this,what is ur feeling if u go out with ur wife or sister and shes wearing hot clothes and all guys in the street start looking and fantasise about her body?would u be happy,or do u prefer that ur wifes body & beauty is only seen by u?


If guys lust over my sister I would be very happy as it would mean my sister could get a boyfriend and guys would want to date her , she would not be lonley, fall in love etc and get married as she did.


if guys lusted over a girlfriends or wife if I had one I would also be pleased as they would all be jealous as I had the prettiest gf or wife who I loved very much as a best mate and lover.

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CAN ALL MUSLIMS HERE OR ANYONE STOP REFERING TO THEIR HUSBAND AND OPERATE AS THOUGH ALL SINGLE WITH NO SEX LIFE WHATSOEVER.


YOU KEEP ASSUMING EVERYONE IS MARRIED. THE POINT HERE IS THAT THEY SHOULD NOT BE MARRIED IF YOU CARRY THIS OUT AND BE HONEST AS IT SHOULD APPLY TO MARRIAGE TO.


yOU ASSUME ALL ARE MARRIED. THEY ARE NOT

Answer 1

Muslim females are so brainwashed in Islam that they yield to the masochistic rules of Mohammed. He calles them less intelligent.
It doesn't take much to figure out that when females are already so oppressed that they react with further submission. The understanding of legalistic Muslims is that females are conceived with ten curses.
As she lives on Earth, she must garb herself from head to foot, lower her gaze when passing a man. Therefore, her identity and self-importance are never known. Her beauty is never seen. She is nothing, not even worth to look at.
Why should a woman observe veil? Is it to prevent men from looking at her with evil intentions? If looking with evil intention is a sin then the sinner should be punished not the victim; or is it devised to save men from not committing the sin? Then what prevents these men from looking at non-Moslem women? If some men have evil intentions, they will have it regardless of wearing a veil or not.

If a woman talks to a man (who is not a close relative) then it can be something other than just a physical relation. It's degrading for women to be treated like a sexual object and not as a person.

If many Moslems think that social gatherings of men and women, absence of veil, equal legal status to men leads to wide spread immorality and indiscriminate sexual relation, nothing is more foolish than this. If these people talk of morality, in what way ‘Temporary marriage’ of Islam is different from prostitution?

Veiling system is made by men for men. Telling women they are responsible for leading men into sin. Their bodys are owned by men for men.

Answer 2

1) Nothing wrong with being attractive. I just don't want sex to be the ONLY thing men see in me. I like being sexy. I also like having a beer and friendly conversation. That's all. 2) I'd say blame is probably 50/50 on that one. ("if you don't want to be ogled, don't be attractive" is probably the STUPIDEST thing I have heard all day. Makes men sound like knuckle dragging morons.) Dressing for attention means you get attention though. 3) Men and women are both wired to find each other attractive. But we have non-sexual relationships all OVER the place. So men ARE capable of seeing things other than just sex in a woman. And vice versa. 4) Don't know the answer to this one. Darn, felt like I was on a roll there for a bit.

Answer 3

Well I've got some decent muslim porn at home, some of those ladies are hot.

However it would be much simpler to ban the evil of islam completely.

RAZY MYSTERIO - you are a brainwashed, indoctrinated, blinkered imbecile. If you think that sharia law will do anything for anyone you are sadly deluded. In all western countries I support sharia law, but ONLY for the muslims living there. The rest of the normal society will still abide by western law. Then, we could exterminate many muslims for adultery, rape and murder, we could also mutilate thieves by cutting off hands and feet. Kill people for being gay etc.

I would like that, love it in fact. I think I would relish the public hangings, mutilations and beheading of muslim criminals.

Answer 4

Please think more logical,
When a women covers her body from men,that does not mean that sex is bad or unwanted in Islam,it just means that sex should be practiced inside the right relation btw a man & women,which is marriage.
Islam & all other GOD sent religions promoted marriage but denied sex without marriage,cause its only animals who practice sex with anybody without any consideration ,cause they dont have the brain that GOD gave us to organize our life .
Even some animals have families and the female dont have sex with others than its male,just by instinct,but pigs allows their females to have sex with other pigs
let me ask u this,what is ur feeling if u go out with ur wife or sister and shes wearing hot clothes and all guys in the street start looking and fantasise about her body?would u be happy,or do u prefer that ur wifes body & beauty is only seen by u?
And in these verses GOD encourage both men & women to lower their gazes and not to have sex except with marriage,and i think all religions sent by ALAH say the same,cause its all coming from one source,ALAH.(why nuns cover their hair and wear clothes that does not show their bodies?)

[24:30-31] "Say to the believing man that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that will make for greater purity for them; and Allah is well acquainted with all that they do. And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; and that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what must ordinarily appear thereof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to their husbands...."

Answer 5

Only married women dress that way, if they wish to. When they have met the man they wish to marry they hide themselves away from other men, and keep themselves only for their husbands.
On the other hand - please don't report me - half the time, they don't feel like putting make-up on or doing their hair. How many of them are still in their pyjamas under there? I asked a muslim woman this once, and she said it was true.

Answer 6

That business of covering the women is all just Muslim hypocrisy. That is an archaic practice of jealous husbands when women were still regarded as property. Muslim men are no different from men of other faiths. They like to look at our beautiful women, but we can't look at theirs. That makes sense?

Answer 7

I think the woman is supposed to cover up so that men other than her husband do not look at her sexually. Obviously she undresses for the husband. Different people have different beliefs, I don't care much about it personally.

It is better to focus on what we (different races, religions etc...) have in common.

Answer 8

you have the right to say that coz you dont know us.when you know us you will discover that you are wrong bro... as a woman i have my own dreams,pains,hopes and desires iam not going to lie we have desires just like every woman but we deal carefully with this issue i have the right to have my own private times with my husband that s why you cant find children without father in our muslim countries comparing with usa for example... god give us this right to deal with our huminity nature but its not allowed for us to /////// with any guy from street like your woman before asking us this question ask your self how many child is suffering without father just because of a pleasure moment for both of you can you know why islam says no for this irresponsible six matters

Answer 9

Your question takes the cake.

The whole reason of Islam is the continuation of the human race by Marriage (So that people can worship God).

Answer 10

That is supposing love is the meaning of life for everyone - and it is not, for some duty and honour are more important.