Can anyone put up a viable argument that GOD really exists in our world today?

Question

if he does what does he contribute to society as a whole.
I am not trying to offend anyone just get a decent conversation going.

but surely happy kko we are in hell now if you believe in god, why would a god permit such suffering

Answer 1

Dear Exorcist,
Does god exist here on earth. I think not.
God created souls (not man) in his image, some souls could not bear to leave fathers side for the loss of the love. some souls ventured out and explored came back and shared their adventures with father. some souls ventured out and found what they though was a jewel in space (earth) and all the chance to experience the 5 senses. The thrill of it all. Once the soul made the decision to come here it had to agree to reincarnate until the lessons were all learned, and the souls that want to go back to father (who does not interfer with our lessons but does miss us terribly and hopes we will return.) To get back to father we must choose love in all our actions, if we like dominion we need do nothing but enjoy the game.

As to is any of the above true. who knows for sure, NOONE!!!

Each person here has a responsibility to their soul to make the right choices, With as openmind as possible take in all the information that you can, ponder it ,ask inward (not externally)
what is true, keep it, live it, and toss out the rest.

What if heaven and hell are exactly the same except for one difference? What ever you picture in your head heaven to be, imagine hell to be the same except for one difference. Everything you can do in heaven you can do in hell except for one difference.The difference is love or dominion. If you choose love you are in heaven, you are sharing love/joy/fellowship, absoulute bliss in all you do.
If you choose dominion you are in hell ,everyone will be dominion bent, acting without regard to anything but personal pleasure, personal gain, excersing power over others. Everyman for himself in all that is done. Everything else is the same.
Now which path do/will you choose? LOVE or DOMINION
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Answer 2

God says: "If I did not perform prescribed duties, all these worlds would be put to ruination. I would be the cause of creating unwanted population, and I would thereby destroy the peace of all living beings."
PURPORT
Varna-Sankara is unwanted population which disturbs the peace of the general society. In order to check this social disturbance, there are prescribed rules and regulations by which the population can automatically become peaceful and organized for spiritual progress in life. When Lord Krishna descends, naturally He deals with such rules and regulations in order to maintain the prestige and necessity of such important performances. The Lord is the father of all living entities, and if the living entities are misguided, indirectly the responsibility goes to the Lord. Therefore, whenever there is general disregard of regulative principles, the Lord Himself descends and corrects the society.
Nowadays nobody care about rules and regulations neither the so called religions follow real principles of religion, therefore the whole society is a complete chaos.

Answer 3

His word (the Bible) predicted the devastation that's plaguing the world today. God has left man with 1 ability that, altough seems simple to understand, is the source of the world's destruction. That is the freedom of choice. God loved us enough not to force us into following him. If he did, you could label him as a slave master, but we have the choice. Unfortunately, our freedom of choice have led to man creating false gods, killing, slavery, greed, deception, hatred - all the things that are characteristics of Satan. Jesus told everyone that this would happen, because man (as a collective) has no self-control. That's the truth. Since God has stayed true to his word, we have a choice in life. His contribution to life was Jesus. Through Jesus, we have a way out of this 'mess' we got ourselves into. THe destruction of the world is inevitable. Through Jesus, we are able to look beyond our deaths. Through Jesus, this life doesn't seem so bad. Through Jesus we are saved from the sins of man.
Ask yourself this, God says for you to be saved, all you have to do is call on Jesus and believe. He didn't say you have to cut your hair, weight no more than 150 lbs, have a perfect tan, disown your family, sacrifice your children, wear purple all the time, or slice yourself for every sin. He said all you have to do is believe in Jesus. Why do Man have such a hard time doing so? Again, much like choices, it's a very simplistic thing, but the results can be devastating if not taken seriously.

Answer 4

i had a violation given to me for communicating.
whatever that means.

I know God exists because of the 3 and 4 visions i had received.

I know God exists because of the prayers that have been answered and because I received revelations.
These things are not easy to receive and in despite of the world and the enemies of righteousness, it is even harder to stay faithful.

i saw an angel appear in my bedroom, that alone proves there is a god whether it was Satan or a True angelic person.
But experiencing a vision/visitation of Jesus goes way beyond faith and hope, it proves what cannot be written, it is an experience beyond any biblical text can teach, though there are many texts that try to describe having such an experience.

Answer 5

Every time any person goes out of their way or does a favor for another person, that is testimony of the existence of God.

The fact that the world hasn't blown itself up and destroyed itself by now, is evidence of the existence of God.

The fact that the Catholic Church continues to exist, after enduring 2000 years of external persecution and internal corruption is evidence of the existence of God.

The fact that not everyone in the world is caught up in the acquisition and pursuit of money and power, is proof of the existence of God.

Without the existence of God in the world today, there would be no hope for the future, as the best anyone could look forward to would be a grave.

Answer 6

The world itself is proof of God's power and existence. However if you want proof that Jesus is god or the God of the Bible is the true God then evidential apologetics will not get you very far. You will need to read the scriptures and a miracle from God will have to occur before you can ever be sure of that.

Answer 7

There is no proof or evidence for any god.

Honestly, if there was a magical all powerful being sitting up in the clouds looking down on us day after day... and he TRULY loved us... why is the world so freaking screwed up?

don't give me that free will crap either, because if he is omnipotent and omniscient, then every thing happens by his design as he already knows what is going to happen and by his own actions, he put every thing on a predetermined course.

Answer 8

God contributes alot to the world today. Peace within those who receive him, joy where there was sorrow, healing of physical bodies for those who believe in him, deliverance for those who are addicted to things of this world and salvation to those who are lost in their sin. I myself was healed over a year ago of a neck injury which consisted of 2 bulging disks. X-rays to prove it. What does a person who does not believe in God contribute to the world today? Suffering for those who are seeking, the idea that there are no everlasting consequences to what we do here on earth. The idea of there being no God is a cancer to humanity.

Answer 9

The most visible proof is in the eyes of people who truly walk with Christ. If you don’t know anybody like that, you are likely to find some working in soup kitchens or sitting beside the bed of the terminally ill and dying.

Answer 10

I have never seen credible evidence for any god. I see evidence for other things but no god. Sorry.

This doesn't seem at all surprising. The idea that you need a more complex being to explain why we see apparent complexity just makes no sense. You can't explain the origin of apparent complexity by a greater prior complexity. That should be obvious. One doesn't explain the seemingly improbable with an even greater improbability.

As a mathematician I understand where apparent complexity comes from and it is not from design. Design only requires a greater complexity. Instead complexity ( What we mathematicians call Kolmogorov Complexity ) comes from selection operating on variance. The variance comes from mathematics itself. The selection comes from us. Our existence greatly restricts the regions of reality we can find ourselves in.

What confuses people is they don't understand that our understanding of nature is layered. They see objects like people and trees and understand that those people are made up of atoms. They may even understand that those atoms are made up of sub-atomic particles. They may even understand that those particles might be made up of knots in mathematical manifolds as part of string theory. But it doesn't really register to them that what we see as space and time are not fundamental and what that might mean. Einstein gave us our first clue that time was not fundamental when he combined it with space. The fact time may not be fundamental means that it is fundamentally wrong to think of reality as space changing with time. It looks like it is, but that is because we observe it as a layer above (or several layers above) what it really is . Rather it is eternal (timeless) space-time. Or better yet ( at a deeper layer ) it is eternal mathematical truth masquerading as space-time.

Another clue that time may not be fundamental is that we never ever measure time. We measure change between states of matter. If the state never changed you would nave no means of claiming that time had passed.

Reality looks like space changing with time because we see so little of it. This is because of the selection effect of our existence.
We see upper layers because we do not see the lower layers. We see trees because we don't see individual atoms. We see atoms because we don't see them as sub-atomic partices. We don't see reality as mathematics because we are unable to see reality as it truly is. Our layered understanding of reality is a direct result of our myopia.

I think it is Christians misunderstanding of the layered nature of reality that leads them to believe in gods and other superstitions. They conclude nature is not eternal because they see the wrong layer. Yes there is a big bang event but it is not a creation event. It is just a special point in reality. It only looks like a creation event because we are seeing the wrong layer.

Further they don't understand the power of selection effects and completely misread just how incredibly vast (infinite actually ) reality really is.