Why don't any of the Pride Or UFC fighters study karate?

Question

All the successful Pride or UFC fighter are training in Jiu-Jitsu and kick boxing. What's up with these people that get a karate black belt in a year and think they're tough?

I laugh. Am I wrong?

Answer 1

yes you are wrong and you obviously have no idea what your talking about.i don't know any bb in karate that got it in a year.and a lot of the more succesfull pride and ufc fighters have trained and learnt stuff from many different styles not just the 2 you mentioned.now go and relax in your armchair watch another fight video play another game on your x box and you'll be even more of an expert than you are now.

Answer 2

You're definitely not wrong. Anyone that thinks they can fight in the UFC or Pride FC with ONLY a black belt in Karate may be able to win a fight. But to be successful, you have to be cross-trained in more than one discipline. As a matter of fact, many MMA fighters have studied or has a background with some Karate in it. Look at guys like Vernon White and Ryoto Machida, they've been very successful in MMA, both use Karate. The thing that makes them successful is that they both use Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, Wresling, and Judo as well as Karate.
So, the answer to you're question: No, you're not wrong. These days, you have to work your way up to the UFC and Pride FC through smaller shows. Anyone who gets a black belt in one year and thinks they can make it to the UFC or Pride FC should be laughed at!

Answer 3

UFC and Pride Fighting is simply geared toward that kind of style for competition. A UFC fighter would get killed in a Tae Kwon Do Sparring match (think Olympics), and a Tae Kwon Do Fighter would die in a boxing ring. It's all relative. UFC is not conducive to Karate fighting beyond the spin kicks, some blocks, and some grabs.

It's true, some Karate schools are in it for the money. Some aren't, and you can tell the difference. My grandmother could break a board. That's not the test a real school makes you do to become a black belt.

Personally, my TKD Grandmaster could probably kill anyone he hits with one punch. However, that came with forty or fifty plus years of training. Don't judge Martial Styles unless you've trained them and talk about a particular context.

Answer 4

Here's the trick, the folks that get a black belt in any art art fooling themselves. That school is doing them a disservice. I used to fight those kids in school that got black belts in under 2 years. I'd wipe the playground with them. Now I don't condone fighting for fighting's sake, and I'm not proud that I used to beat people up, but it happens.

There are some UFC fighters and Pride fighters that study Karate, but they study the real stuff. The problem is that Karate is a spiritual art so it takes longer to learn then kickboxing. There are four major divisions of martial arts: Spiritual, non-spiritual, grappling and standing. Traditional Karate is a standing spiritual art. Traditional kickboxing is a standing non-spiritual art. In Non-spiritual arts you just learn to kick butt, no chi work, little to no meditation training, just fighting. So it's a short cut for folks like UFC fighters who just want to do damage. In the long run a real Karate master gets a more rounded education then that of a kickboxer, you'll find people as old as 100 still doing Karate, Kung Fu and other spiritual arts, but you never see anyone over 60 doing kickboxing, Muy Thai, or Capoeira.

Answer 5

No you are not. They try to make the excuse that NHB is not really NHB as eye gouges, bites and the like are not allowed, but this is BS. The submission grappler will be in a far better position for this, and if you look at Kenpo and other traditional martial arts only a small percentage of it is actually that far away from safe tactics. Most of it is simply stylized, ineffective striking. Time and time again it is proven that full-contact martial arts are the most effective, Muay Thai, Boxing(the more similar stance and other reasons means it is still very helpful), BJJ, Wrestling have been refined over a long time with ACTUAL, REAL-TIME, SPORTS TESTING in the FIELD not in the mind.

I look at a 10-dan black belt and think what a waste of time is that, when a NHB fighter of half that experience could destroy him in a matter of seconds. Traditional martial artists have virtually no advantage whether the fight is totally no-rules(biting, groin strikes etc.) or whether it is MMA rules.

And anyway the first UFCs proved that in a real-time situation karate masters actually look far less aesthetically pleasing then full-contact artists and it is totally dissimilar from their kata or "sparring".

Bruce Lee argued this exact same thing, that "safe" techniques are actually more effective as they can be trained properly. If Lee was in this time there is no doubt he would have trained BJJ.

Answer 6

Anyone who gets a black belt, in less than two years, in any style is lying or has been tricked. Unless they study every single day I can't see it being legit.

MMA fighters train in multiple disciplines because they encounter scenarios beyond a typical fighters comprehension. Karate isn't crap, it just maybe isn't for everyone. And too many people (black belt in a years time) have brought about a bad image by claiming to have a "no-fail" style or can shut down your nervous system with the right punches.

Remember...a person can get knocked out or over powered by anyone, given the right circumstances.

Answer 7

Why use Karate when BJJ, Judo, Muay Thai, Boxing, Kickboxing, Wrestling is much more effective?

Karate is a waste. Go learn Muay Thai or BJJ. No one uses Karate in the UFC because of the takedowns and its a little kids martial art.

Answer 8

Karate is good, if it was taught good enough by a good sensei...many karate class offered are not qualified enough to take on the true responsibilities of putting up a dojo and what is it really to be a black belt...in many countries (especially asia), it will take you five years or more to acquire the black belt...you will have to go through intensive training..it's a serious deal, not a walk in the park for most of us. Choose the correct dojo, your life depends on it.

Answer 9

I do karate, Judo, and Jui-jitsu and also kick boxing and karate is like the basic stuff. i would think that many of them did karate sometime in their life and then went into what they like best, because the do mixed martial arts...Karate black belt in 1 year! i bet they are soft.

Answer 10

Actually Georges "Rush" St. Pierre's base style is karate, he trained in karate since he was a child and got into MMA. And since alot of kids take karate as kids and the wave of popularity that has recently hit MMA I bet you will see alot more karate because it really does offer a great stand-up game.