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I've been having QUITE an interesting debate with a theist on youtube.

It's fascinating how he takes simple understandings and takes them to mean something different.

Take for example two quotes I said to him: "Mine is negative - a negative claim can't have evidence."
- This referring to my negative claim, "There is no god."

Also, "There is zero evidence of this. Therefore, one cannot logically believe this claim."
- In response to this statement of his, "God is not subject to general relativity because he is super-natural, above or outside of space-time or causation."

From all this he incorrectly gathers that I'm speaking in oxymorons. Speaking out of both sides of my mouth like Richard Dawkins. (Again... all his words.)

It is simply fascinating to watch him not understand the simple concept that "There is a god" is a positive claim with no evidence. And not believing in a positive claim, but the opposite - thus, believing in a negative claim - "There is no god" - is just that.

2007-02-20 17:07:14 · 3 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

My question is, 'Do other theists think like this one I've been talking to? Is believing in a negative claim blind faith?'

2007-02-20 17:10:09 · update #1

robert p, there is no evidence for a creator.

And I'm not implying anything about atheism - just lack of belief. Nothing more.

2007-02-20 17:17:54 · update #2

For my question of if there are any theists here that think like the one I was talking to, Crys H. - YOU are one of them.

"Is there evidence to support that there is not a God?" - Exactly what I was talking about. It is impossible (and not required) for there to be evidence for a negative claim.

The burden of evidence is on the postive claim (e.g., "there is a god).

2007-02-20 17:20:16 · update #3

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We arent all born positive robots from planet god. We learn from empathy and then compassion and then trial and error. There are perfect things in life one of them is not thought. One that is, mercy. Have mercy on those that dont go your way.

2007-02-20 17:15:01 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Is there evidence to support that there is not a God? The big bang, evolution--all that can be used against the six day creation, but it could still describe the work of some sort of god.

I think believing in either extreme is somewhat blind faith. Christians like me are proud of this faith! But if I have to speak strictly logically, I'd have to say that Agnostics have the right idea. "I dont' know if there is a God, but if there is, I can't claim to know how He or She operates." That's just facts, requiring very little faith, if any.

2007-02-21 01:16:11 · answer #2 · answered by Crys H. 4 · 0 1

There is more believable (logical) evidence of creator God then something from nowhere and nothing no God atheism.Name one thing ever created from nothing.Name one plant and/or animal that is partially evolving.

2007-02-21 01:16:00 · answer #3 · answered by robert p 7 · 0 1

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