Ive read alot of people on here throwing out the verse, Judge not, be not judged..
What do you consider judging?
If I notice my father for instance, and he is having a beer (my dad doesnt drink, but for instance sake) and I believe that is a sin, and I tell him "Dad, you shouldnt be doing that" According to what Ive read, that is judging in alot of peoples eyes...
I believe God gave us discernment. The bible says to "Judge righteous judgement". Also, the bible says to watch for wolves in sheeps clothing, false teachers... How would we do this, if we did not judge or decide, if what they are teaching is right?
I know alot of people think that the verse judge not be not judged (sorry, I dont feel like copying and pasting the verses, go to a serch engine and type it, youll get the verse numbers) is saying we cant judge anything, anyone anytime. But if you read the whole passage, it says to dont judge as a hypocrit. First get yourself right, then help your friend. Your thoughts
2007-02-20
15:52:41
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Ok... Here is an example, so people can understand what exactly I am coming from...
I believe the bible says homosexuality is a sin. I believe that homosexuals are sinning, and that the sin is an abomination to God. I am obviously not homosexual, so my duckies are in a line there... Can I think this, and or conversate with someone over this in a nice manner of course, and is it judgemental of me to think they are wrong and hell bound, even though the bible says they are?
2007-02-20
16:03:50 ·
update #1
Actually, JILL, Just to let you know, I did not ask a question and feel judged because I was doing something wrong. It was sparked because of the question from the young girl about her friend not believing she was saved, and wanted her to be, and the girl said she already was. Most answers said her freind was being judgmental. I read the girls history of questions, and found a very bad question on there about being in love with a girl. Maybe this is why the girls friend didnt think she was saved? And in that case, the freind wasnt being judgmental, but was caring about her freinds soul... Thanks :)
2007-02-20
16:08:42 ·
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Also, Jill, I am on the not ever feeling judged side. I dont believe that people cant judge. People can question my salvation all they want, ask me when I was saved, anything. I would rather people be concerned about me, then let me go assuming I am saved (I am, but what if I wasnt?) and I would die and go to hell because no one ever questioned me!
2007-02-20
16:10:48 ·
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I like the way that verse is so misinterpreted. Jesus said judge not lest you be judged talking about judging someone Else's relationship with God.
We have every right and are expected to judge what is immoral and are required to speak out against it.
People that are fence sitters use that interpretation so they don't have to do or say anything. They are scared they will offend someone. They need to get off the fence and stand for something!
2007-02-20 16:02:32
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answered by Kye H 4
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You know, this is called questions and answers. If people feel they are being judged, then they shouldn't ask. I notice that when some catholics and muslims get asked questions they get all defensive and accuse the asker of judging them when in all reality, they are just asking a question. Usually when a person feels judged it is because they are doing something they are not suppose to do. I never feel judged, no matter what is said here. If I ask a question, I deserve whatever answers come to me. Obviously you have asked a question and felt judged. You are right, there are alot of false prophets, false religions and wolves in sheep's clothing. This is why we must read scripture and know it, then we will know if someone it telling us the wrong things or not.
2007-02-20 16:04:42
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answered by Dakota Lynn Takes Gun 6
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Judgment starts way before you call something a "sin".
Judgment starts when you go to Church and judge to believe what you are told, or what you read in the Bible.
In 325AD the Religious Empires selected (judged) which scrolls to incorporate into the Bible and which scrolls to reject.
Then in 1611, when the Bible was translated into English, Religious Empires judged which English words would replace the original Bible texts.
The verse in Leviticus talked about a Married man should not spend sexual time with another man.
This is the original verse.
"V’et zachar lo tishkav mishk’vey eeshah toeyvah hee."
(Leviticus 18:22)
But the 1611 English translation completely changed the context. So when you gay bash you are not only judging them, you are judging them on a corrupted verse in the Bible. -- On that subject, Church Empires have asked you to have faith that God changed his mind betweeen 325AD and 1611.
Stick with the words of Jesus and you will be a real Chrisitian and not a Biblican of the 1611 persuation.
(I am not a homosexual. However, I am left-handed, I was born that way, and most people are right-handed. If the 1611 Bible was corrupted to say being left-handed was a sin, should I feel guilty eating my dinner with my left hand?)
(PS: I often criticize the Catholic Church. However, at least, their research department has stumbled on the above original Bible text, and have recently proclaimed that being a homosexual is not a sin, as long as fidelity in marriage is maintained.)
2007-02-20 16:05:03
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answered by MrsOcultyThomas 6
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We are called to make judgments about behavior, but we are warned to avoid judging others to hell, as only God has that power.
The best way to deal with that is to understand two concepts:
Objective sinfulness: Knowing that certain actions are typically sinful, given the conditions of full consent, serious or grave matter, and full knowledge by the sinner, of the sinful nature of the action.
Subjectve sinfulness: If any of the above conditions do not exist, or might be in some way mitigated by circumstances, then the action may not be personally chargeable as a sin, or may be relagated to a sin of lesser offense.
None of us can know another's mind or heart, except God, and people are generally pretty screwed up, for various reasons, to start with.
As Christians, were called to admonish those who sin, in the hope of convincing them to repent, but we're never authorized to decide what's going to happen to them, if they don't.
2007-02-20 21:08:57
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answered by Anonymous
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Christ gave the priestly apostolic line the authority to forgive or bind sins, that is, to judge. We have judges elected or appointed to judge secular issues. Church doctrine is judged by those in authority in the church.
Christ spoke against the person, having no theological or secular authority to judge, who would act as a judge.
When we form opinions and relate these opinions to others, that is not judgment as defined biblically. When a teacher assigns a grade for work, they are not judging the person, they are judging the work. Spiritually, we are all judged by our works, for there is no other way for us to be known as righteous or not. Faith without works is dead, just as the fig tree that bore no fruit and was cursed by Christ.
So if you complain to another about their bad habits, or actions, you are merely using what God gave us all to reason with, our minds. Yet, we must remember the commandments of Christ to love our neighbors and to love God. Discussing another's faults should be done with this love in mind. If you are scornful or condescending you cross the boundary of loving conern to judgementalism.
Unfortunately, some Christians have wandered off the love reservation and lost their way. This happens because of the sin of pride, the same sin that landed God's perfect creation in the shape it is in today. I believe that what a person sets into writing is a greater act of consciousness than what a person speaks from their mouths. So, when one writes some of the vitriol that we see in this Forum, especially from self-professed believers, we are giving deeper evidence of the state of our faith to others. Some may know the Word of the Lord, but they demonstrate by their actions that they do not know the Lord of the Word.
2007-02-20 16:15:32
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answered by Ask Mr. Religion 6
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You're right. No one is perfect or without sin so really, none of us can judge anyone else. We can say what we THINK is wrong and feel is a wrong action, that's it. Some people take this as they can condemn and discriminate against people they think are below them. That is what that passage basically means. Judging in the sense that you see something and think to yourself that it's wrong in your eyes is ok. Judging turns to something else when you see something, condemn it and tell whoever is within earshot that you think they're going to hell. No person knows who is going to hell. Hell might not even be real. That is what you're not suppose to do....EVER.
Until your duckies are all in a row, don't point fingers at anyone. If your duckie are all in a row, odds are, you aren't a human.
2007-02-20 15:59:01
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answered by Anonymous
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Read a little further in that scripture and you'll see that it's referring to how you will be judged or "the measure that you use to measure with(Mat 7:2)" . As far as drinking goes it doesn't say not to drink it says don't get drunk (Eph 5:18). I prefer not to drink because I see what it has done to so many people in my life, how can I support companies that leave lives so destitute!!!
Love will cover a multitude of sins isn't that what you want for yourself than use it for your measuring cup (1 Peter 4:8)
2007-02-20 16:24:00
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answered by HEY U 1
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This is a context issue. It is one thing to judge a teacher, or judge whether what you hear is truth or a lie. It is another to judge another person as good or bad, or as a sinner vs righteous. I believe that the idea was to spend more time looking inward and less time telling everyone else what to do (a lesson sadly lacking in many Christians).
I'm not a Christian and I speak of the Bible as I would if we were discussing Shakespeare or another book. I don't know if that detachment makes my opinion more or less valuable but there it is.
2007-02-20 15:58:49
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answered by Huggles-the-wise 5
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There are certain things you must do that do not require judging. It is your duty to teach your children in the way that they must live.
Judge God righteous and you have judged correctly. If you believe his ways are correct, then follow him by becoming an example.
God says to remember when you were not enlightened. You must give people space and time to come to the knowledge of God and his ways.
I wished there were more examples of respect for each others households. I pray that we all find that Gods ways are righteous and a better way to live.
All of our righteousness is like filthy rags according to God.
We must try if we believe.
God Bless
2007-02-20 16:00:27
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answered by soccergarysw 3
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it is not our jobs to judge. our own vanity allows us to make those judgments because we then feel that we are capable of doing God's job. I am more of a fan of the "Golden Rule" rather than the judgment passage. we are not in the position of determining who goes to heaven or hell. we are in the position of taking control of our own lives and living a good one. we will take account of our own sins and have to pay the piper in the end. we will be judged for our actions not the actions of others.
2007-02-20 16:02:09
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answered by Patrick the Carpathian, CaFO 7
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