Why is that statement made in the *past tense*? Why would the all loving God place his creation into hell? I am told that sAtAn had a choice, just like I have a choice-well I chose to believe that sAtAn only had what God gave him, and if that was a choice than that very choice was also a creation of God. sAtAn wanted out; God would not allow his ego to let go of this, his creation. So actually what we are seeing in this battle between God and sAtAn is what religions call the war between good & evil. But how could something so good cast his creation into HELL? sAtAn appears to have seen through this thing called LOVE, and now is condemned for revealing Gods truth. The truth is that God now holds a gun to your head called HELL, and says follw me or be cast out. I felt no pain prior to being born, I have seen more than my fair share of suffering, agony, misery-and worse false hope. For God so Loved the world that he gave his only begotten son and burned the other one! Got a match?
2007-02-20 07:44:53 · 14 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Hell is the grave
Satan disobeyed like a fool....lets not rehash this!!
2007-02-20 07:48:48 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 3⤋
QQs: As a Christian, I can tell you this. Just because you raise a question to other Christians, which challenges them, does NOT make you Satan nor evil ! You raised a very great point about a "loving God" casting His creation into a "hell" for not doing things His way ! (As Paul Harvey says): Now for the rest of the story !!! As far as, Satan and Salvation goes, God would be more than willing to offer forgiveness and reconcilliation to Satan - if Satan really wanted it ! Satan refuses to repent and therefore, remains in a position of opposition against God. Now; for this "Hell" thing. Addressing your query concerning God. re: If God is in the saving business - why does He sentence people to hell ? The answer is - there is no such place as a ever-burning hell fire ! When you research the Bible, you will discover that the concept of "Hell" originates from the ancient Egyptians and was re-adopted millenia later, by the Greeks to maintain a state of compliance born out of fear - fear religion ! In the Holy Bible, (New Testament) "hell" is a translation from the Greek text of origination of the word "hades", which translates into "grave" or "hole". In this sense, everyone ever, born will be going into "hell" - grave when he or she, dies ! God holds no "gun" to anyones head - and it is He, who draws people to Him, to imbibe in a relationship with Him through Jesus Christ. Since He has begun this good work in us [Christians] He will see it [spiritual growh process] through to completion ! You are 100% correct about "hell" - it does not exist as a eternal flame ! The GOOD NEWS is - ALL humans ever, born will have their individual chance to have a relationship with God the Father - some have it in this life whereas, the remainder will have it at the return of Jesus Christ to this earth ! God is in the saving business and in the end - ALL humans will be WINNERS !!! YES; God LOVES people !!!
2007-02-20 08:18:59 · answer #2 · answered by guraqt2me 7 · 0⤊ 1⤋
why is it in passed tense? because it's in English. the greek word is more complex, as it literally means (loved from the beginning on).
why do people go to Hell? Because God and sin do not have peace with eachother. If you want to show up at God's doorstep (Heaven) you have to first:
1) take the right road the there (salvation through Christ)
2) don't swerve off the road, cuz the other lane is bigger and steep (live righteously and do not backslide)
3) wipe your feet on the welcome mat (repent of sin while on earth)
4) pass the entry test; what have you done with God's Son? did you make him your Lord and Savior?
since God doesn't tolerate sin in His presense, He separates Himself (and His children) from sin. Since Heaven is good, and desirable, logically Hell will be bad, and somewhere undesirable.
Satan was cast out because he lead a rebellion against God.
You've seen suffering? then you should be thankful that you're not in any physical torture and you should try to ease the pain of other people. telling people God's got a gun to their head is not easing pain.
what other son? God has a begotten Son (Jesus Christ) and His "adopted" children. If you aren't God's child (not saved), then you aren't entitled to enter His house or get inheritance.
2007-02-20 07:57:19 · answer #3 · answered by Hey, Ray 6 · 0⤊ 1⤋
First of all, Satan is not in "hell" - meaning a place of torture or fire, etc. Actually, according to Scripture, he is in Heaven, and soon enough Michael will kick him out and down here to earth; further, Satan never wanted "out" of anything - he was created to guard the very throne that was reserved for Christ, but satan himself wanted to be the Begotten Son of God, instead of Christ. That started a huge war;
This war isn't over yet, not hardly. And satan doesn't want to go anywhere - he wants this, and so God is giving him a fair opportunity;
Now, its up to you and me. We get to make a fair choice. All that "fear of hellfire" crap is just that: crap. Its made up from churches who want to have control over the people thru religion. Its not Scriptural. Nobody is gonna burn like bacon forever and ever, and nobody is burning in fire right now, either.
If you think that you are finding truth and love through Satan, then you will be very, very disappointed; If you think that by sticking up for him, serving him, etc., that it will make you his friend, you are stupid indeed. He will do nothing more than kill you spiritually, until you are deader than a hammer (spiritually) - and, unfortunately, he's doing a good job at it, so far.
You had better wake up; the day is nearly over, and you are in very bad shape, dude.
I strongly advise you to take another look at what you are doing. I'm not trying to give you a bunch of crap, just saying you need to look at this thing much deeper than you are.
If you want to know more about what the manuscripts really say about that war, ask this question: "was there really another earth age?"
I will answer you.
I had to can my email because my son found a death threat on it, and it scared him to death -
he's only 7yrs old.
2007-02-20 07:59:27 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 2⤋
Lucifer deceived 1/3 of the angels into believing a lie about God. Satan appearing to see through the thing God calls LOVE is just a fabrication in attempts of having this weak argument seem more weighty. Hell was created for the devil and his angels who were created as angels. We humans were created as flesh and originally had no part with Hell. Only after the fall of man did Hell become a destination for us. But, God had a desire to offer an escape after mans fall. He would die for us to supply the blood offering that was neccessary. His own blood. He showed satan that he loved us and he wasn't about to let the devil take us all to Hell with him. Now we have the choice. Choose to receive Gods assistance out of the mess that papa Adam and mama Eve got us into. Or, choose not to believe the Gospel (good news) and remain destined for Hell. But don't think for a minute that any of this poppycock you have suggested will have any significance at the great white throne judgement. You better rethink your beliefs about it all. Take care and no offense meant.
2007-02-20 08:09:34 · answer #5 · answered by Jimguyy 5 · 1⤊ 1⤋
First, activity a million:6 does not say devil entered Heaven. the author says the "sons of God" got here to cutting-edge themselves and expressly keeps devil break away something. Paul, centuries later, might say that devil is switched over into an angel of sunshine--according to threat he become attempting to sneak previous God? we don't comprehend for confident. Paul called devil the "prince of the potential of the air" and Peter warned believers to be alert, etc. (a million Peter 5:8) by using fact in basic terms as devil is strolling approximately, searching for something to eat, so he become strolling up and down in the earth in the time of activity. Then, secondly, the area approximately no longer something defiled entering heaven comes from Revelation 21. in the context, John is pointing out that it is the holy city, New Jerusalem, which no longer something defiled will enter. besides, all that's after God makes new heavens and a clean earth so--there is in basic terms no longer something defiled, etc., at that element! an mind-blowing question, and that i promise to famous person it as exciting.
2016-09-29 09:29:39 · answer #6 · answered by gizzi 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Very valid points and well thought out. That would then fall along the lines that God forbade Adam and Eve from eating from the tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, but the snake encouraged them to (the snake being symbolic of Satan). That action by God of forbidding Adam and Eve to eat from that tree of knowledge could be construed that God was attempting to hide something about himself. Hence your logical path in your question would also support that suggestion.
2007-02-20 08:01:47 · answer #7 · answered by corona001500 3 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Satan wasn't God's son, he was an angel. Satan tried to overthrow God, and if God hadn't sent him to be the ruler of hell, Satan would be over us right now! Personally I'm quite glad he did so. I don't even want to know what the world would be like otherwise.
2007-02-20 07:50:47 · answer #8 · answered by krazy_chic6944 3 · 0⤊ 2⤋
The phrase is past tense because the whole quote is "For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son...." He could only give his son once. XD
I have a sneaking suspicion that Lucifer is female.
2007-02-20 07:49:48 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 2⤋
I heard the poor guy fell down from favor himself and God didn't do it.
2007-02-20 07:49:36 · answer #10 · answered by missgigglebunny 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
i think it is rather humorous that you sympathize with satan.... poor poor satan? good grief... he lived where it was perfect... and decided it wasnt good enuf for him.... and wanted more... so now you feel sorry for satan cuz he lost the battle and is suckering every person he can to his side... when in the end, the battle is already won?
2007-02-20 07:52:44 · answer #11 · answered by livinintheword † 6 · 1⤊ 1⤋