2007-02-20 03:32:59 · 23 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Your thinking is correct except for the fact that 3 in 1 is a difficult topic. Jesus and God are 1, along with the Holy Spirit. But they are also separate. God is the creator, Jesus was sent to Earth for our sins and the Holy Spirit is our connection to God. 3 separate but still all 1.
2007-02-20 04:44:46 · answer #1 · answered by jmpauley2005 3 · 2⤊ 2⤋
God is a trinity of persons: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. The Father is not the same person as the Son; the Son is not the same person as the Holy Spirit; and the Holy Spirit is not the same person as Father. They are not three gods and not three beings. They are three distinct persons; yet, they are all the one God. Each has a will, can speak, can love, etc., and these are demonstrations of personhood. They are in absolute perfect harmony consisting of one substance. They are coeternal, coequal, and copowerful. If any one of the three were removed, there would be no God. (See also, "Another Look at the Trinity")
Jesus, the Son, is one person with two natures: Divine and Human. This is called the Hypostatic Union. The Holy Spirit is also divine in nature and is self aware, the third person of the Trinity.
There is, though, an apparent separation of some functions among the members of the Godhead. For example, the Father chooses who will be saved (Eph. 1:4); the Son redeems them (Eph. 1:7); and the Holy Spirit seals them, (Eph. 1:13).
A further point of clarification is that God is not one person, the Father, with Jesus as a creation and the Holy Spirit is a force (Jehovah's Witnesses). Neither is He one person who took three consecutive forms, i.e., the Father, became the Son, who became the Holy Spirit. Nor is God the divine nature of the Son (where Jesus had a human nature perceived as the Son and a divine nature perceived as the Father (Oneness theology). Nor is the Trinity an office held by three separate Gods (Mormonism).
The word "person" is used to describe the three members of the Godhead because the word "person" is appropriate. A person is self aware, can speak, love, hate, say "you," "yours," "me," "mine," etc. Each of the three persons in the Trinity demonstrate these qualities.
The chart below should help you to see how the doctrine of the Trinity is systematically derived from Scripture. The list is not exhaustive, only illustrative.
The first step is to establish the biblical doctrine that there is only one God. Then, you find that each of the persons is called God, each creates, each was involved in Jesus' resurrection, each indwells, etc. Therefore, God is one, but the one God is in three simultaneous persons. Please note that the idea of a composite unity is not a foreign concept to the Bible; after all, man and wife are said to be one flesh. The idea of a composite unity of persons is spoken of by God in Genesis (Gen. 2:24).
2007-02-20 11:37:39 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 2⤋
God is not encompassed by place. He is OMNIPRESENT because He not only created place, but He gave place the permission to encompass other creations; only by God's Will and Power.
Jesus is not God. He was a prophet of God. He was the son of Mary and had no father; just like Adam had neither father nor mother. Some animals are born through virgin birth. God has no parents nor any offsprings...Glory be to Him!
Jesus ascended to the Fourth Heaven by the Will of God...and not by Jesus' power!
2007-02-20 11:40:36 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 2⤋
Jesus is not God. He is God's Son. John 10:36. Jesus called his Father "the ONLY true God." John 17:3. Since that is the case, how can Jesus ALSO be the true God?
Jesus is not God. At John 20:17, Jesus told Mary that he was "ascending to MY GOD and to your God." Was Jesus ascending to himself? No. He was ascending to his God.
The confusion over the identities of Jesus and his Father was spawned by the trinity doctrine. According to that doctrine, the Father, Son and holy spirit are co-equal, co-eternal, and that they all make one God. However, trinitarians know the Bible does not teach such confusion. So they fall back on scriptures that they believe will prove the duality of Jesus and his Father. Even if such a concept could be proved by the Bible--which it doesn't--that is NOT the trinity.
The trinity is a man-made falsehood.
2007-02-20 11:38:01 · answer #4 · answered by LineDancer 7 · 3⤊ 3⤋
Thats such a great question. God and Jesus are the same in a way but not in all ways. Because Jesus died on the cross and god didn't. It is very confusing. God, holy spirit, and Jesus form kinda a trinity.
2007-02-20 11:39:55 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 2⤋
The idea of an omnipresent God is both illogical and a Pagan ideaology. You should study more about Mithraism and Christianity to see how Constantine corrupted the true teachings of Prophet Jesus (PBUH) and turned it into today's Christianity, which is based off Constantine's true religion: Mithraism.
2007-02-20 11:37:27 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 2⤋
Hi 7,
You're rehashing old topics again and again and again. The new muscle upgrade must not have gone well.
The Godhead, are three distinct beings with a singular purpose. The holy spirit is able to be with us continually as we are willing to accept him as our companion. God the Father himself is not omnipresent, nor is Jesus Christ. They are perfected personages of flesh and bone reunited with their spirits as we will be one we leave this existence and are resurrected. Jesus ascended to heaven to be with his Father in that perfected state and will return as the glorified being he now is.
This I know to be true.
2007-02-21 00:36:46 · answer #7 · answered by MtnManInMT 4 · 0⤊ 2⤋
hypothetically, I consider God to be like water...in three forms but all the same and suiting one purpose, to fulfill our thirst. when it's cold it is ice. when it's just right it's water. when it's hot it's steam. It's still water and the same thing, just different forms to suit all occasions.
God is the same way...He is the Jesus who sacrificed Himself for our sins so that we may have forgiveness. He is God who is the Creator of the Heavens and the Earth. Last but not least he is the Holy Spirit to be with us to enhance Himself as God and Jesus who is always there through trials and tribulations. Oh, and the many forms of God fulfills OUR thirst, just like water...only better.
Hope that helps, that's the explanation I give my girls.
2007-02-20 11:45:15 · answer #8 · answered by ? 6 · 1⤊ 1⤋
In response to an answer above me (it said religion causes wars and should be banned): They did ban it somewhere remember? The Communist Soviet Union. They tortured and jailed religious men women, and children. Banning it is not the answer, educating people against violence and helping them see where others are coming from is.
He sent a form of himself down as "man". The man part ascended. God can do whatever he wants. That's the point of being God.
2007-02-20 11:42:20 · answer #9 · answered by Mrs. Eric Cartman 6 · 1⤊ 2⤋
He ascended like a gentle balloon. Forget all the talk about omnipresence, that will confuse you; and cause your relatives to squirm.
Jesus ascended and when he got to heaven he was met with jubilation and acclaim, and they poked his eathly body to see what it was made of.
2007-02-20 11:39:20 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋