There's hope for Christianity yet-you're the rational face of Christianity.
2007-02-20 02:21:14
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answered by Anonymous
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Well said.
I fear that we will have a terrorist act by Christians in a western country within five years, certainly within ten.
Alarmist - extreme? Try the fact that last year the Evangelical Alliance in a written report called "Faith and Nation", advocated "violent revolution".
This menacing language came from such people as Lord Mawhinney, the Tory peer, Andy Reed, the Labour MP, and the Rt Rev Peter Forster, the Bishop of Chester, and sounded more like the diatribes from Muslim fanatics.
Whilst such extremism is emptying churches of the good Christians it is allowing the violent thinkers to believe their own rhetoric and become even more extreme.
Over Christmas police and legal action was taken against Christian groups in Chicago, Australia, Canada and England.
God and Christ do not hate - only people do that. But will the day come when these extremists take their hatred into violent conduct? I fear the answer is yes and that it will be sooner rather than later.
But the real cause of all this is not so much the extremists in the Church but the church leadership and good Christians who are not taking any action to restore sanity and order.
2007-02-20 10:37:43
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answered by Anonymous
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It is apparent that you don't know, or study the Bible very much. Jesus was intolerant of sin and commanded people to repent. He also said that without Him you won't get into Heaven. While He did teach love, and forgiveness, As far as wiping the dust from my feet is concerned, if you knew of ancient cultures you would know that this was considered an extreme insult given to a person. It wasn't just an act of shrugging off of some one. It is to tell some one that they are not worthy of your time, and that they are disgusting and that you want no part of them, not even the dust of their house. Jesus was not above giving insult when deserved. He called the Pharisees a brood of vipers. He condemned anyone who would harm, or mislead children and keep them from His truth. You better go back and study the Bible again, if you think He taught tolerance. He taught just the opposite. He said that liar, adulterers, thieves, murderers and prostitutes would not be allowed in Heaven. People that profess with the tongue, but yet commit these sins are not true in heart of being a Christian. It is also taught in the Bible to rebuke and kick out of the church the unrepentant sinner. To say Jesus is tolerant is to show you don't know the Bible as you claim. You just don't like God's rules is what it boils down to.
2007-02-20 10:44:11
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answered by celticwarrior7758 4
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I agree with you, but I disagree that the cause is "fundamentalism." Fundamentalism is the belief that the Bible is completely accurate, without supernatural flaw, and inspired by God. Fundamentalists uphold the inerrency of the Scriptures. There's nothing wrong with this, since Jesus Himself taught that we are to follow Scripture.
I think the term you're searching for is "legalism." Christian legalists use the laws given under both the Mosaic and New Covenants in ways that God never intended. In doing so, legalists excise God's mercy from the law, which completely eradicates its intended meaning. (It's interesting to note that Christian legalists rely upon Mosaic law, apparantly ignoring the message of Paul's letter to the Romans, which explains we are not under the Mosaic law, but under grace.)
Jesus repeatedly rebuked legalists. When He returns, I imagine He'll also rebuke Christian legalists, some of whom are probably not even saved. Case in point: the Westboro Baptist Church folks, a.k.a. "God Hates F*gs." They are disgusting legalists, misusing the law as a reason to hate the sinner, instead of only hating the sin.
2007-02-20 10:37:04
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answered by Suzanne: YPA 7
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Jesus does love everybody and wants us to also, but He did not want us to put up with sin and evil ways. He told us to teach and if that doesn't work, then to avoid. You are supposed to turn away from what is wrong otherwise you are just as wrong. You are to pray for the one who is sinning, not commit violence against them. That is Love. If that's intolerance then I am guilty, and so is God.
May God Bless you.
2007-02-20 11:16:40
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answered by Anonymous
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You appear to be a victim of bad teaching about the life and preaching of Jesus.
How tolerant are these sayings of His?
John 14:6
Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."
Matthew 10:34
"Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword."
Acts 4:11-12
11 This Jesus is the stone that was rejected by you, the builders, which has become the cornerstone.
12 And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved."
Luke 12:49-53
49 "I came to cast fire on the earth, and would that it were already kindled!
50 I have a baptism to be baptized with, and how great is my distress until it is accomplished!
51 Do you think that I have come to give peace on earth? No, I tell you, but rather division.
52 For from now on in one house there will be five divided, three against two and two against three.
53 They will be divided, father against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother-in-law against her daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against mother-in-law."
Far from tolerance, Jesus called those that opposed Him "hypocrites," and snakes, vipers;
Matthew 3:7-8
7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming for baptism, he said to them, "You brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the wrath to come?
8 Bear fruit in keeping with repentance.
Matthew 12:34
You brood of vipers! How can you speak good, when you are evil? For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks.
Matthew 23:33
You serpents, you brood of vipers, how are you to escape being sentenced to hell?
The very word "tolerance" means that you know the difference between right and wrong, and you choose to accept, to tolerate, the wrong. This is directly counter to the command of Scripture:
Romans 12:9
Let love be genuine. Abhor what is evil; hold fast to what is good.
This is also commanded in the Old Testament:
Psalms 97:10
O you who love the Lord, hate evil! He preserves the lives of his saints; he delivers them from the hand of the wicked.
Psalms 101:3
I will not set before my eyes anything that is worthless. I hate the work of those who fall away; it shall not cling to me.
Amos 5:15
Hate evil, and love good, and establish justice in the gate; it may be that the Lord, the God of hosts, will be gracious to the remnant of Joseph.
1 Thessalonians 5:22
Abstain from every form of evil.
So, far from tolerating evil and sin, we are comanded to hate the sin and even to confront it, naming the sin, and calling the sinner to repentance. The call to repentance is actually the merciful and gracious thing to do, because the sinner will otherwise be condemned on Judgment Day.
Hebrews 9:27-28
27 And just as it is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes judgment,
28 so Christ, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, will appear a second time, not to deal with sin but to save those who are eagerly waiting for him.
I could go on, but by now you have quit reading.
2007-02-20 10:48:38
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answered by Anonymous
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This is the true Spirit of Christianity. Michael above obviously does not truly understand the Savior's words.
Christ taught patience and love, not force and violence. Violence comes because of intolerance and sin, not from worshiping God in the manner prescribed by Christ.
Religion tells us what God did. Science attempts to tell how he did it.
2007-02-20 10:37:34
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answered by rbarc 4
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Very well put. Jesus was not fundamentalist and taught tolerance, even when you disagree with others. He even mentioned to his apostles that if the people of a town didn't want to hear the message, you just LEAVE, you don't ransack the town or destroy people, verbally or otherwise... you just LEAVE, and kick the dust of the town from your shoes as you go.
_()_
2007-02-20 10:23:49
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answered by vinslave 7
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Intolerance is not just anti-christian, but it is also the reason why the world is in the way it is now, that people are so narrow minded and not willing to listen to another person, causes hatred, wars, and ultimately could be the downfall of the Human civilisation .
2007-02-20 10:21:52
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answered by Lief Tanner 5
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Unfortunately, the fundies don't want to understand or accept this, which is why they simply don't get it. Hatemongers are hatemongers, regardless of which religion, or none at all, that they subscribe to.
2007-02-20 10:24:22
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answered by Anonymous
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