Christians. Salvation question for you.?

Question

So if there a christian who goes out raping and torturing jewish people for his whole life, then one year before dying turns to jesus and repents, he gets into heaven? On the other hand if there is a jewish person who lives a perfect life, dedicates this entire life to helping poor and sick people, this person does not get into heaven?
For those of you don't personally believe that but are still christian, I have a second question. Where do you draw the line? How do you say, oh well I personally don't think that, but this other stuff I do believe. Can you really just cherry pick in religion?

Wow you're all brainwashed. So then the rest of the billions of people in the world who aren't YOUR specific religion are completely screwed and destined for eternal damnation? I am starting to see why the rest of the world hates christianity, so ethnocentric, filled with thinking their way is the only way or you will be punished. Nice religion.

Lets look at this another way, lets say there is someone who lives in a VERY remote area. Greenland, pictarn islands, siberian, whatever your example. Now they simply don't get exposed to christianity and therefore don't believe in christ....these people are damned also?! Wow, the christian God suuuuure is judgemental.

Answer 1

I will not believe anything that I cannot square with my own conscience. Consequently, my beliefs change and evolve as I think more and more deeply about them.

Answer 2

In your hypothetical scenario the so called "Christian" who does all of those things before repenting was never a true Christian during that time in their life. That person may have called them self a Christian and even believed that they were a Christian but it was all a lie.

As to the Jewish person, there is no such thing as having lived a "perfect" life. The only Jewish person to have ever lived a perfect, sin free life was Jesus. That's why He was the only person who was qualified to offer up his life as a sacrifice for the sins of others. Everyone else has a sin debt to pay. That's why Jesus said that He was the way the truth and the life and that no one could come to the Father apart from Him.

For the sake of discussion, if another person was able to live a life with not one sin in it then they would meet the requirements of God's law and they could then enter the Kingdom of Heaven under the old covenant.

Galatians 3:10 For all who rely on works of the law are under a curse; for it is written, "Cursed be everyone who does not abide by ALL things written in the Book of the Law, and do them."

James 2:10 For whoever keeps the whole law but fails in one point has become accountable for all of it.

Answer 3

First of all, what is the likelihood that a person who lived a life of raping and murder would suddenly feel any real remorse at the last minute? Why would God the Holy Spirit allow him to know that he was dying, and allow him to repent? You forgot that the Bible says in both the Old & New Testaments that God hardens the heart of whomever he wills, which is why the Pharoah could not repent no matter how many times that Moses preached to him.

As for the guy who lived a "good" life, Jesus said the only God is good. Every human has sins that he needs to be forgiven in order to get into Heaven to live forever with a pure God. Even when we do "good" deeds, our motives are mixed, so we are still doing evil when we do good, so that means that EVERYTHING that we do is sinful (we are not doing God a favor by doing good, we are actually digging our hole deeper).

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In response to your second part, what would God do to people who lived in the jungle or mountains & never had a chance to get to know him, the Bible seems to be clear that God would simply judge them based on what they knew.

Answer 4

notice that most people focus on the rapest and completely ignore the person who lived a perfect life.

Christanity has became a very spiteful religion, where people handpick verses from a bible to support their anger, their hate.

However, there are still some Christians left, who truly believe that God loves and accepts all, no matter if they believe in him or not, they believe that God will find a way to make everything alright in the end.

Those are the Christians that are worth remembering; worth noting. Not the ones who spout such garbage about hell and hatred.

Answer 5

I don't draw the line. God does. Without a doubt, if a person sincerely in their heart repents, no matter what they sin, they will be forgiven.

As for your other example, there is no such thing as a person who lives a perfect life, Jewish or otherwise.

Answer 6

First, just doing good does not make you get innto heaven. The bible states you have to ask God to cleanse all your sins away and live as a new person. If your only doing good in life and not following Jesus and did not accept him as your personal saviour then the good you have done is not anything. God is a forgiving God thats why he tells us to come to him willingly. I don't cherry pick my religon. I live as the Word of God tells me to.

Answer 7

Very interesting question. We have a religious society today that even has wars to proclaim their faith. We are all God's children. However, ask and you shall receive, seek and you shall find, knock and the doors will be thrown open to you. He who believes shall have everlasting life. I don't think that any human being who walks the square in life, would ever be confounded. The question and answer used in many ritual christian based faiths is " in a time of great difficulty, distress, and danger in whom do you trust? The reply is in God. You trust aright for Holy Writ assures us that they who places their faith in God shall never be confounded. However, The Father, and The Son, and The Holy Spirit are one entity under the Divine Liturgy. I place my faith in Christ and believe that the return is near. Very interesting and yielding question. God bless you---

Answer 8

The Grace of God is for everyone who places their faith in Him while still walking this earth. I know it is hard to understand but luckily it doesn't take understanding to gain entrance into Heaven. I just visited the Holocaust Museum and when thinking about everything those people went through I would want to throw everyone who even thought about participating in the torture into Hell. Thankfully my standards are not God's or we would all be in trouble.

Answer 9

This is an answer to your second question.

All people are accountable to God whether they have “heard about Him” or not. The Bible tells us that God has clearly revealed Himself in nature (Romans 1:20) and in the hearts of people (Ecclesiastes 3:11). The problem is that the human race is sinful; we all reject this knowledge of God and rebel against Him (Romans 1:21-23). Apart from God's grace, God would give us over to the sinful desires of our hearts, allowing us to discover how useless and miserable life is apart from Him. This He does for those who reject Him (Romans 1:24-32).
In reality, it is not that some people have not heard about God. Rather, the problem is that they have rejected what they have heard and what is readily seen in nature. Deuteronomy 4:29 proclaims, “But if from there you seek the LORD your God, you will find him if you look for him with all your heart and with all your soul.” This verse teaches an important principle: everyone who truly seeks after God will find Him. If a person truly desires to know God, God will make Himself known.
The problem is, “there is no one who understands, no one who seeks God” (Romans 3:11). People reject the knowledge of God that is present in nature and in their own heart, and instead decide to worship a “god” of their own creation. It is foolish to debate the fairness of God sending someone to hell who never had the opportunity to hear the Gospel of Christ. People are responsible to God for what God has already revealed to them. The Bible says that people reject this knowledge, and therefore God is just in condemning them to hell.
Instead of debating the fate of those who have never heard, we, as Christians, should be doing our best to make sure that they hear. We are called to spread the Gospel throughout the nations (Matthew 28:19-20; Acts 1:8). The fact that we know people reject the knowledge of God revealed in nature must motivate us to proclaim the good news of salvation through Jesus Christ. Only through accepting the Gospel of God’s grace through the Lord Jesus Christ can people be saved from their sins and rescued from an eternity apart from God in hell.
If we assume that those who never hear the Gospel are granted mercy from God, we will run into a terrible problem. If people who never hear the Gospel are saved…we should make sure that no one ever hears the Gospel. The worst thing we could do would be share the Gospel with a person and have him or her reject it. If that were to happen, he or she would be condemned. People who do not hear the Gospel must be condemned, or else there is no motive for evangelism. Why run the risk of people possibly rejecting the Gospel and condemning themselves – when they were previously saved because they had never heard the Gospel?

Answer 10

Maybe the Jewish man,who did all these wonderful things,did them all with the "wrong intentions". And the rapist was being true to his self with no hidden intentions.
People will always cherry pick the religion.This applies to you that don't apply to me but truly it's the intentions of your heart,no matter what side of religion you think you fall on.

Answer 11

I would explain it to you, but just turn everything you just said completely around.
A good Jew would get in for sure.
A bad Christian will not, especially if they are a rapist and only repent on their deathbed.
If I put this question, then YOU would report me for being an antisemite. Take a look at yourself. The ignorance you display to the whole concept is amazing. Do you really believe it, amazing!