Was Lucifer standing up for us?

Question

After years of Bible study I have come to my own conclusion that if it weren't for Lucifer no one would go to Heaven.
Read it and weep, folks, it's all there.
This question is open to free thinkers but I'm sure you pushers will have your say.

Answer 1

well lucifer use to be good right, how do we no anyway, mayb he is still good but in peoples minds it is the way of the bible, i have to agree with you, i beleive u r so very right, good on ya 4 standing up for what u beleive, i wish i could.

Answer 2

After years of Bible study, I would have thought that you would have come to the conclusion(and very early on) that if it were not for Jesus Christ no one would get to heaven.
Have you not noticed that the entire Bible is about God and His works towards man?
I deal with things of this nature alot, and generally all that has happened is an individual has made an error in interpretation. This mistake is big enough and obvious enough to drive a Mack truck through.
I recommend that you obtain a good book on theology, and one or two on reading the Bible. I'll reference them for you

Answer 3

Lucifer was the original mediator between God and the rest of creation|

Now Lucifer fell by his own choice and became satan|

But he didn't have to|


He could have opted to serve and obey God|

If he did, there would have been no fallen angels, because instead of tempting them, he would have led them infallibly to heaven|

Man would not have fallen because instead of tempting him in the Garden, he would have led them infallibly to God|


So instead of Lucifer leading everyone to God, because of the choice that he made, he is the *main stumbling block* that we have to get over to *get* to heaven|

It is all a matter of *symmetry* in the order of creation|


However there is good news because of Lucifer's apostasy|

The angels that did make the right choice, were given a far greater degree of glory in heaven than if they were infallibly led by a good Lucifer| That is the natural reward for choosing against the evil that they could have opted for|

The saved of humans live far more interesting lives and get the reward that can come only through struggle and all the other virtues in resisting suffering and evil to do what is right|


If Lucifer had not fallen, all of reality would have been much flatter| But becaue of his fall, there are the striking contrasts between light and dark that we now have|

If Lucifer had not fallen, everyone would have of course been graetful that a great catastrophy did not happen, but in our present state of existence, we would never want to go there, even if we were given the choice|

For it would be like living forever in a Mary Poppin's movie|




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Answer 4

boy i feel so sorry for you i almost feel as if you are crying out for attention for asking such a stupid question i don't know what Bible you are reading but it clearly states that Jesus is why it's possible to go to heaven not Satan if you want to go to Satan's place well you are certainly on the right track with your thinking but if you want to go to heaven you better sit your pretty little behind down and reread that bible again i don't care if you have to read between the line to see it but if you were studying it as hard and long as you claim you would not have come to your conclusion my only suggestion to you is reread it and you will weep when you find the real answers you need -i will be praying for you-

Answer 5

God would have had numerous purposes for turning out to be us. i trust one purpose grow to be to illustrate to Lucifer and his followers that Lucifer grow to be, in reality, incorrect. Lucifer should be God. properly, he were given the threat to rule over this international for a constrained time. and be conscious how that is going. Is the international as all of us understand it more beneficial advantageous than the heaven that wasn't solid sufficient for Lucifer? We, the creatures of this international, are given a call. We decide for ourselves which God is maximum worth of our worship. i do no longer love my author God because he's maximum effective, besides the undeniable fact that he's that. it is way more beneficial than would makes actual. i love God because he's more beneficial solid and larger beautiful. God knew it may well be like that, and He judged that the fallen angels had to make certain it, with the intention to comprehend. he gained't ruin them in the previous they see that He has the right to. We people are weaker and stupider than any of the angels or demons. yet we educate that even we may be able to make certain that our God is wisely worth of praise and worship. And we educate that when we lean into God and remember upon power given to us from Him, we may be able to face hostile to the worst devil (Lucifer) can throw at us. God's will be done. God cares deeply about the suffering this demonstration is causing should you've to stay in the midst of it. it is yet another reason He supplies us a fashion to be "in His Kingdom" NOW, throughout the time of our mortal lives, and characteristic the protection of His peace and His potential and His enduring love. it is likewise why He has promised that devil's time to rule the earth will come to an end. the tremendous image is that the conflict between angels will be gained through God and God on my own. And "each and every knee shall bow" and "each and every tongue will renowned" is a prophesy that incorporates Lucifer. He grow to be incorrect. he will bow down and renowned God. he will be stripped of his potential. The earth will be re-created to fix the wear and tear done lower than devil's poor administration. And God will be loved and worshipped each and each and every of the more beneficial because we referred to the version between His approaches and how else it may well be.

Answer 6

You are correct, & do you know why you are correct, because if Satan was not here, Every person that would have been born in the Garden of Eden, would have been born with eternal life, & since they would be born with eternal life Heaven will still have been here on this earth as it will be in the millennium. I guess you thought you had us Christians.

Answer 7

Lucifer was used by the evil spirit which is satan, who wanted to overthrow the power of God in Heaven but did not attend victory but was lost on the fight of power, thats why he could no longer go to heaven with God. He belongs now to the demons who are tempting the creatures of God to commit sin against God and many now are being tempted. Please do not be tempted and always pray to God to guide you always

Answer 8

just another example of how in order to exist good needs evil and vice versa... the concept of an equilibrium between yin and yang, if there was no hell then why would someone need heaven?...nice thinking.

Answer 9

BEEN HITTING THE D AND D TO HARD HUH YOU HAVE COME TO A CONCLUSION AFTER A YEAR HUH WELL MAN YOU ARE READY TO GO AND PREACH SATANS WORD NOW ARENT YOU YOUR SOO COOL A BLIND LEADING THE BLIND MAN I HAVE BEEN STUDING THE BIBLE FOR A LOT LONGER THAN 1 YR AND YOU CAME UP WITH THAT ALL BY YOUR LITLE SELF MAN PUBLIC SCHOOL REALLY IS DOING YOU SOME GOOD AINT IT ///I FEEL SO SORRY FOR YOU

Answer 10

ha satan was out for himself

yep it's all there - and you could not hit a barn with a brick
you would miss it, too