Did the US steal any land from Mexico?

Question

I keep seeing people post on here that the US stole land from Mexico. However, I can not wrap my brain around the logic.

They lost Texas in 1835, when Texas fought for and WON independance from Mexico. On February 2, 1848, The Treaty of Guadeloupe Hidalgo was signed when General Winfield Scott siezed Mexico City from former President and General Santa Ana. The treaty was later ratified by both the U.S. and Mexican Congresses. The treaty called for the annexation of the northern portions of Mexico to the United States. In return, the U.S. agreed to pay $15 million to Mexico as compensation for the seized territory.

Bought and paid for.

Could someone please point out where I am wrong. All responses welcome, but please explain your answer. I do not learn anything from smart-as* answers.

lordzander - Good answer. Very lucid and singuarly solid answer. Not that I agree with you 100%, but thanks for a good answer.

Marcos - you condencending waste of human life, I have read history books. I have a Bachelor of Business Administration in Public Administration with minors in History and Economics. Wikepedia is not going to tell me anything new regarding Manifest Destiny. I am real sure the concept has not changed in the last few years since I graduated. However, my educational level is not the question here. But thanks for your open mindedness in providing your insightful non-answer.

Más lejos más, pedí elegante assed las respuestas que se irán apagado. Si usted no puede agregar cualquier cosa profundo a la conversación, guardar por favor su estúpido y odio llenó coments a se. El resto de nosotros está intentando tener una conversación aquí. Gracias otra vez. BOBOSO

Marcos - No, your position did not get on my nerves. You position not only was legitimate, but insightful and important to the converstation, you were the only one that brought up manifest destiny. However, there was no reason to imply that I am ignorant of any facts. At no time did I request people to agree with me. i am open for all opinions, and positions, especially the ones that do not support my conclusions. Otherwise, I would never learn anything.

Yes, my spanish sucks...but thats what you get from learning spanish on constructions sites.

If you want my opinion, Mexico can have California back, the whole state...and since you are at it, you can have the whole state of New Mexico, and the southern half of Arizona. We get to keep Texas.

Deal?

Answer 1

yea they stole it like they stole the US from the Native Americans. and they still have the nerve to complain about illegal immigrants. This is my country and it makes me sick how everybody fights for whats not really theirs.

Answer 2

Hey I'm a Northern Mexican mix This land belongs to the natives and most Mexicans are mestizo

My family is from Chihuahua and New Mexico my ancestors have been here longer than any European has, YES it was stolen! Tried flipping it around in an alternate universe you would say it was stolen. it's just being bias. I am Mexican-American and I am proud. This is my country, and I loveI this Country! But I don't forget my roots and family history! I don't Pay attention to the imaginary line in the sand the United States is just the other side of Mexico because we're native were a mix race! If white Americans want to deport us Then I leave it up to God and karma, because at the end of the day it will be okay! Empires don't last forever! Mexico my not last forever either, but The natives my race were here before either countries were conceived.

Nationalism only separates! It's silly I don't pick a side, I just want peace!

Answer 3

In the treaty of Guadalupe-Hidalgo Mexico SIGNED over the land. Now known as California and so forth. In return the U.S. gave Mexico 15 million dollars, which is 10 million dollars less than our original price for the land we ( The U.S.) got anyway. So no the U.S. did NOT steal land.

Answer 4

Wrong rjern the united states never paid Mexico for the land and Texas (U.S) did steal texas from mexico, they rebelled becaused they could. Mexico let them stay there then Mexican rebells back stabed Mexico.

Answer 5

Actually if you want to talk about some country "stealing" this land, get to the truth of the matter and mexico never "owned" it in the first place.
The US southwest was the land of the US native American indian tribes, NONE of which have ever been "mexican", or mexica, or mexicano, or aztec, or mayan, or toltec, or meztiso, or hispanic, or latino, or chicano, or cholo, or vato, or homie.

The hispanics came here from EUROPE and stole the land of the US southwest from the US tribes of the southwest.
No Mexico existed before the hispanic-europeans got here. Spain CREATED the nation of Mexico.
Spain claimed "ownership" of the US southwest lands, and when Spain pulled it's rule out, Mexico "claimed" to own the land north of the Rio Grande for a few unimportants years, during which time few mexicanos ever moved north, out of mexican indian homelands, into US native indian homelands.
At the signing of the Treaty of Guadelupe Hidalgo, Mexico SOLD Texas for 15 million in gold. Too bad the ignorant, greedy, corrupt, and wasteful mexicanos didn't invest that money into bringing Mexico out of the dark ages, maybe today Mexico would be operating as a functioning nation on the world stage, instead of a begging, leaching, disrespectful nation, a joke to the rest of the world, exporting it's overpopulated, ignorant, unskilled, poverty striken masses illegally into the USA to support, and to send illegally earned US money back to support Mexicos lazy ignorant arses.

Answer 6

I think if this were the case after more than a 100 years Mexico has never said anything about the land until immigration became an issue

Answer 7

They post such because that is what they want to believe.

I remember seeing it posted one time recently and they even said that such is what they were being taught in school in Mexico (if one can believe all that they read on here). If not mistaken, that one also was making the claim in another question that there is only 5 continents vs. 7 that I attempted to help them understand with a link given to an encyclopedia site (they chose as the best answer someone that went along with their viewpoint if I remember correctly). Another person even wrote to them listing the continents for them. Some people don't want an answer it seems.

Why people state such? Maybe they really believe it. Maybe they post it because they like to try to irritate others. Some post such just for attention because the internet really may be the only 'life' that they have (sort of a 'moment in the sun' sort of thing).

Answer 8

First of all this land belonged to only native indigenous Indian tribes not Europeans either american or Mexican nor even the mixed breed descendants of spanaird mestizos which hated Indians more than their full blooded europ an ancestors to this day

Answer 9

The lands of the former Northern Mexico are the rightful territory of the United States, and with that said, Mexico belongs to the Untied States as well. We have so many of their people, 58% said they would like to come here to live, so lets just take the entire nation, charge back taxes on the elites of Mexico City, and execute any insurgency that appears. Sounds good to me.
I don’t plan on being a casualty of the next civil war, Mexico’s or America’s. You want a separate cultural, a separate language, a separate set of laws, separate customs, separate education curriculum, separate history, different ideals and different ideology, then what’s holding the Mexicans, yes the Mexicans in California, Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas from demanding a separate Nation all together? They now out number all other ethnicities in each of those states, and millions more are on the way here. But We Americans We will fight you, and we will kill you, and we will win, if theirs one thing I can count on it’s the American backed into the corner by the ACLU, socialists pigs, La Raza Aztlan nuts, to fight with a ferocity not seen in this nation since the last civil war. I’ll see you on the battle fields of Los Angela’s, the urban dead zones of Nevada, and the nuclear wastelands of Mexico, we took half and now we’re coming for the other half.

Answer 10

I guess that's the arguement of some Mexicans. But here's my thing: if they want the land back, fine - talk to the U.S. government and see if you can buy it back.

But that's not what's happening, is it? They're coming to America illegally and utilizing ALL those wonderful AMERICAN programs.

If you want the land and can make a deal with America, fine. But you don't get all the extra goodies - welfare, social security, benefits for anchor babies, education, medical, housing, food stamps, the list goes on and on and on of American programs illegals are exploiting and bankrupting.

It's not the land that's the biggest issue for me. It's the highway robbery of American taxpayers.

Answer 11

Montezumas revenge, there stealing large parts of the USA now, taking medicaid, the schools and the hospitals, reducing our country to a 3rd world living standard.