Ok, I asked everyone about the bible, and how they think a mighty holy God could or couldnt not have perserved it how he wanted it... I absolutley think he could have, and he did, by the KJV...
For all the people who claimed, well, you can read other bibles, not just he KJV, ect ect...
My husband is the sunday school teacher at our church. He just recently surendered to preach, and he started with sunday school.
His second week doing it, my step dad actually thought he came across something that was wrong with what my husband was preaching on. The bible we use is a 1611 KJV, not a Nelson you buy at the bible store... but our church bibles are just generic bibles. So my step dad comes to my husband and told him his whole message was off, because in the scripture my husband preached on, it was about Jesus being led up the Spirit to be tempted by the devil.. In the church bible it say spirit, with a little "s". This changes the complete meaning of what my husband was preaching on.
2007-02-19
14:00:32
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Sorry, couldnt fit it all! Anyways, it changed the meaning of what my husband meant, becuase the message was about how God lets us be tempted, but does not tempt us with evil. God led Jesus up to be tempted by the devil. If it would have been a little "s", it would not have been the Spirit of GOd, but the spirit in Jesus... completly different meaning!
So my question is then, if such a subtle, tiny change can change a complete passage of scripture, wouldnt you want to make sure you are reading the complete word of God?
Google Bearing Precious Seed... There website sells KJV bibles in the original 1611 form, with no changes, they are awesome quality!
2007-02-19
14:03:09 ·
update #1
Worshipping tradition is NOT wanting to read out of the true bible! I want God in his wholeness, not bits and peices that the devil managed to get out. God preserved his word in the KJV, read the NIV, its missing entire verses, and changes the meaning of stories!! Compare, I have a 10 page article I wrote on this with facts and comparisons, if you want to see it, email me, I will send it to you!!
2007-02-19
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Erica,
Young lady, I believe that you are correct in using the KJV BIBLE. I believe that your husband is right in assuming that the 1611 versiobn is probably much better than the newer versions of the KJV. I also use others when I am preaching to do some additional research. I am not a preacher at all but occaisionally I do step up front and preach when I am able to do so. I hope that you are not too upset by some of these ugly comments by others. GOD will stand beside you if you are strong in your belief in HIM. Have a great week.
Eds, Christian
2007-02-19 14:42:02
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answered by Eds 7
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If God could preserve the Bible, he could do so with the NIV, the RSV, or any others instead of the KJV.
But guess what? The Bible was not written in English. Any and every translation is necessarily inferior to the original. You are not basing your argument on comparing the original Hebrew and Greek Bible to the KJV, but, remaining ignorant of the TRUE words of Scripture, claiming KJV to be superior.
You worship tradition, not the LORD.
You say, "if such a subtle, tiny change can change a complete passage of scripture." Such differentiation was not made by the authors of the Bible as it REALLY WAS, but were a later invention by human hands.
You say, "God preserved his word in the KJV, read the NIV, its missing entire verses, and changes the meaning of stories!!"
I say to you, read the manuscripts. read the Bibles that are preserved from the 4th century, not the Bibles that were made in the 17th century. Then you will see that these verses were NOT in the original Bibles, but were added by human hands. You worship the words of men. The reason the NIV doesn't include those verses is because they were not part of the original Bibles.
Tell me: have you studied Hebrew? Do you know Greek? Unless you have, how can you possibly say that the KJV is a better translation?
2007-02-19 14:04:01
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answered by koresh419 5
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So is your little sermon here, about thou shalt only read the King James version, it is for just the women, because your kjv would tell you Erica to only teach the women right?
Why do you think God waited until the 16th century to come out with a Bible that preserved His pure word, What was wrong with the versions before the KJV?
Why are you sure that God stopped with the KJV? Maybe He stopped with the New American Standard, which many today believe is the best version of the Bible.
I will NEVER understand you KJV ONLY fanatics! I just don't get it. I got saved reading a paraphrase called "The Book"!
Have you ever heard someone pray in the King James version? rediculous to say the least!
2007-02-19 14:16:47
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answered by Anonymous
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Wow, you are splitting gnat hairs here. Scripture is not based on one verse. It is always repeated in many places. S or s, does not make a message. Was he tempted? Yes. Does God allow it? Look for other examples. Over and over throughout the Bible, whatever version is used, the principle of a story being told, is repeated. I know you said you wanted all that God has but believe me, trying to reduce the power of the Word down to this is the reason denominations came about. Sprinkle - submerge, Saturday - Sunday, Circumcise or not? I do believe Paul addressed this. Does any of it justify you? No. The message is simple. We should not make it complex.
2007-02-19 14:50:42
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answered by JohnFromNC 7
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however nothing against what you are saying. but what if Jesus is God? then would that not say the same thing. because they the Spirit that is God and the spirit in Jesus would also be God. so therefore it still says the same thing
i believe God did keep the Bible the same. and you can read an niv Bible and still know the truth. i know many who go to our church after reading the niv and knowing the truth. they now use the kjv but at the time did not. as i said though the spirit in Jesus was God. for Jesus was God manifest in flesh.
and they showed that the KJV is accurate.
2007-02-19 14:07:55
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answered by dannamanna99 5
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All I can tell you bout' it is that the Original Language at the Times GOD inspired Men to Write it, was Translated.
The Original's were Inspired.
I haven't read in those Translations, that the Transilations were Inspired.
The Originals Interpret Themselves.
The Translations are alittle off in some, way off in others--My personal belief is that the KJV, with an Amplified Bible (to understand the words in the KJV) will:
1. get you Saved and on to Heaven.
2. get you Filled with the Spirit and Speaking and
Praying in Tongues.
3.get you Healed
4. get some Miracles goning in your Life
5. get you Wisdom, Knowledge, Understanding
And alot of Other things.
Works for me!
Ditto................
2007-02-19 14:19:39
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answered by maguyver727 7
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I believe God could have presserved the total correct text had he wanted to; however, even in the Bible it prophesies that there will be a falling away and that his Spirit will be withdrawn from the earth for a time before the Second Coming. During this time, the Bible was presserved and passed down by men, so it was of course lawed slightly. Yet it still retains the important message that Christ came to earth. The Book of Mormon is amazing in how it compliments the Bible, and it was indeed presserved by God and translated by his power, so the translation is correct without the flaws. Using both texts clears up a lot of questions and confusions.
2007-02-19 14:11:27
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answered by moonman 6
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Your right, the KJV is the most accurate translation. That is not to say that no other Bible can be used to read and learn about God, as they, for the most part (there are exceptions) teach the message. However, when a person is teaching or doing deep study, it is probably best that they use KJV. Something as small as omitting one letter, or placing a coma in the wrong place can change the text you are reading, thus, changing the meaning.
2007-02-19 14:05:37
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answered by Gardener for God(dmd) 7
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2016-10-16 01:35:21
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answered by ? 4
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MATT 4:1 [NIV] Then Jesus was led by the Spirit into the desert to be tempted by the devil.
[KJV]Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil.
[ESV] Then Jesus was led up by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil.
[YOUNG LITERAL TRANSLATION] Then Jesus was led up to the wilderness by the Spirit, to be tempted by the Devil.
Every version I can vind has the Spirit in Upper case letters. I'm not entirely sure what difference it would make, how would this change the entire message? it seems to be to get hung up on one letter would be vane jangleing, a clanging symbol, would it not?
2007-02-19 14:12:54
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answered by setfreejn836 3
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