Most Christians claim that Jesus said ( NO MAN COMETH UNTO THE FATHER, BUT BY ME )?

Question

and “I and My father are one” (John 10:30) to proof that Jesus is the son of God----- but it does not still proof it----u can be working in a company that have a CEO and the CEO have an office manager, so whe u wana ask or discuss about something ---the office manager will tell u ---( u shoud do so and so because i know better , me and the CEO is one (in the ideas and the path) so it does not mean litreal ONE PERSON----then he tell u if u do it my way this is also the CEO way
NO MAN COMETH UNTO THE CEO, BUT BY ME .
so what this means ???,” that they all may be one, as you, father, are in me and I am in you; that they also may be one in us, that the world may believe that you sent Me “ (John 17: 21).

Jesus as Jesus is within the God and God is within Jesus; Jesus also says that the whole of mankind is within these two. If so the entire mankind itself is also God. Why do the Christians then fail to understand this? Do they not believe in their own religion?

If the entire mankind is God what is the specialty is Jesus? When mankind itself is God how can their worship of any one other than their own selves, could be justified? If this is pondered over, the real meaning of Jesus saying “ I and the father are one” could easily be discerned.

It is universally common to say about two closely intimate friends to have become one. Nobody would take this to mean that they have become one person and one has merged into the other. On the other hand they will take it to mean only that the two are so intimately close .

Jesus is a word from God but not his only son ---adam too is a word from God

And the two shall become one flesh ‘. So then they are no longer two , but one flesh” (Mark 10:7-8)



In this verse from the New Testament the phrase “ no longer two” is given emphasis. In the case of Jesus such a phrase is not used. Naturally therefore the Christian world should understand the statements of Jesus as it understand this verse.

Answer 1

You have a good ???, I understand what you are saying.

‘But isn’t Jesus called a god in the Bible?’ someone may ask. This is true. Yet Satan is also called a god. (2 Corinthians 4:4) At John 1:1, which refers to Jesus as “the Word,” some Bible translations say: “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” But notice, verse 2 says that the Word was “in the beginning with God.” And while men have seen Jesus, verse 18 says that “no man hath seen God at any time.” (Authorized or King James Version) So we find that some translations of verse 1 give the correct idea of the original language when they read: “The Word was with God, and the Word was divine,” or was “a god,” that is, the Word was a powerful godlike one. (An American Translation) Clearly, Jesus is not Almighty God. In fact, Jesus spoke of his Father as “my God” and as “the only true God.”

Did Jesus ever say that he was God? No, he never did. Rather, in the Bible he is called “God’s Son.” And he said: “The Father is greater than I am.” Also, Jesus explained that there were some things that neither he nor the angels knew but that only God knew. (Mark 13:32) Further, on one occasion Jesus prayed to God, saying: “Let, not my will, but yours take place.” (Luke 22:42) If Jesus were the Almighty God, he would not have prayed to himself, would he? In fact, following Jesus’ death, the Scripture says: “This Jesus God resurrected.” (Acts 2:32) Thus the Almighty God and Jesus are clearly two separate persons. Even after his death and resurrection and ascension to heaven, Jesus was still not equal to his Father.


As for the “Holy Spirit,” the so-called third Person of the Trinity, this is not a person but God’s active force. John the Baptizer said that Jesus would baptize with holy spirit, even as John had been baptizing with water. Hence, in the same way that water is not a person, holy spirit is not a person. (Matthew 3:11) What John foretold was fulfilled when, following the death and resurrection of Jesus, holy spirit was poured out on his followers gathered in Jerusalem. The Bible says: “They all became filled with holy spirit.” (Acts 2:4) Were they “filled” with a person? No, but they were filled with God’s active force. Thus the facts make clear that the Trinity is not a Bible teaching. Actually, long before Jesus walked the earth gods were worshiped in groups of three, or trinities, in places such as ancient Egypt and Babylon.

Answer 2

First and foremost, human relationships are not the same as the relationship between God and Jesus and yes even the holy spirit.

If we try to formulate a definition of God and use our own human relationships, we will fail to see the connection, as all humans are lost in sinful bodies and will fail and sadden one another.

The bible is the best at explaining the relationship. Number one, John 3:16 explains that Jesus Christ is Gods ONLY begotten son.

There is no other. We can and should become adopted children of our living God, but we are not begotten, we are chosen and adopted and can and should receive the same inheritance as the begotten one. In fact we shall become the bride of the begotten one. Both man and women will become this "bride" It is not a sexual relationship, rather a spirtiual one, in which we submit and adore our bridegroom.

Now, Jesus has always been around prior to our creation. He states many times in his word, that he is the word. Remember this verse? In the beginning was the word, and the word was made flesh. This is Jesus. We may not be able to totally comprehend how the word coming from God could be made flesh, but we can certainly understand that words spoken from our mouths are a definate part of us. We can live independantly from our spoken word, but our spoken word cannot live independantly of us.

Answer 3

Jesus meant that no one can be saved strictly by living a good christian life but that they need to BELIEVE in Jesus Christ as the son of God. Genes are but the answer to your other deductions such as God is within Jesus and Jesus within God. Man is created in God's image. No, man is not God and all you need to do is look around you and see the mess that this old earth is in. If man were God, this earth would be a lot better off.
Remember, he that has ears let him hear and he that has eyes let him see?

Answer 4

i don't comprehend while you are the comparable individual who's actively working against the Orthodox faith....might God forgive you while you're.... specific, the father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God. God is a Trinity of persons of the comparable nature, thus there is one God, the Trinity. Jesus Christ, the 2nd individual of the Trinity, the Son of God, is equivalent in divinity to the father and the Holy Spirit, and as a guy he's God incarnate, the 2nd individual of the Trinity in the flesh. In Jesus Christ, there is one individual, the Son of God, in 2 natures, God and guy (differing from the Trinity, 3 persons of one nature and thus one God). Such is the secret of the Trinity and of the Incarnation. it incredibly is known in easy terms with the help of experiencing the existence and lightweight of the Trinity with the help of participation and not by using rationalism. If we in easy terms think of theology and don't stay in theology we won't in any respect come on the element of comprehending.

Answer 5

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word WAS God." John 1:1

"And the Word became flesh (human), and dwelt among us, and we saw His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth." John 1:14

Jesus is the eternal word of God, who became man to save us, therefore Jesus is also God. God is a TRINITY>

Answer 6

I am a devoted semtic, I think Trinity is so simplistic and so efantile only simple minds accept it..God is beyond playing doctors or playing mom and daddy...
If you don't get the truth it will be too late... Repent to the One God!

Answer 7

YES......!!!.......The "new" Testament can be VERY confusing !!! I think your problem comes from giving one apostles account more credit than the others....They ARE all quite unseemlier (even the events that should be word for word by all accounts are not).....But hey we are all of us not perfect....Take from the bible all the good that you can use - try to ignore the stuff that makes you fret...:( And try to remember that it is all just hearsay !!!

Answer 8

It's the trinity. Jesus came to handle our sins and take them away for us. All we have to do is accept him and let him lead our lives. Give Christ what he paid for and nothing less!

Answer 9

Moses and mohamed also said to their ppl if u obey me ---u obey God and they never considered them to be God's sons

Answer 10

I think there is a circle of Hell devoted to office managers.