http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070216/ap_on_re_us/battle_on_the_border_2;_ylt=AuBXSeuNWGZ3yGVN99j6QrlH2ocA
This will take a few moments to read.More at the link.FABENS, Texas - The prairie where it all happened is quiet now, but for the occasional Border Patrol vehicle passing by. A sign rests near a muddy ditch, "Stop Illegal Immigration," left behind by protesters who have visited in homage to two ex-agents, imprisoned for shooting a drug smuggler in the backside as he sprinted toward Mexico.
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It seems almost unimaginable that one moment in this lonely place ignited the furor that rages still — from the blogosphere to Congress — two years later.
A jury convicted the agents of assault, obstruction of justice and civil rights violations. A federal judge meted out punishment: 12 years for Jose Alonso Compean; 11 for Ignacio "Nacho" Ramos. As the two men surrendered last month, demonstrators took to the streets, clutching U.S. flags and shrieking: "What kind of America do we have?"
2007-02-19 06:23:11 · 13 answers · asked by Zoe 1 in Politics & Government ➔ Immigration
they should have shot the intruder dead. if they had done so they wouldn't be in prison. they should of been honored for stopping the drug pusher.
2007-02-19 06:40:08 · answer #1 · answered by jazz 2 · 7⤊ 2⤋
What really happened?
The two BP agents told the truth and the prosecution bribed the drug smuggler to testify and bullied everyone else to lie.
The prosecution of course did not have to be bullied to lie, they did that on their own accord.
The letter written by Joe Loya (Ramos' father-in-law) to Congressman Walter Jones lays out what REALLY happened
http://www.americanfreedomriders.com/JoeLoyaLetter.html
The real question here is not whether the agents are guilty or innocent, that is perfectly clear, but what is the motivating factor behind Johnny Sutton, Debra Kanof and George Bush.
(Sutton is a Bush appointee).
Who is really pulling the strings here? How far up the ladder does the corruption go?
2007-02-19 07:43:11 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 4⤊ 0⤋
It took Congress close to 6 moths to get the information about the case that they requested. The lies that were made already part of the evening news for the last several weeks.
What I can't understand is why these men are still in jail with just what has recently been revealed - let alone with what else is sure to come out.
At the very least, these men most def. should have a re-trial. At best, the injustice that clearly is starting to be revealed would have them totally free and restored to their position of being border guards.
2007-02-19 07:27:07 · answer #3 · answered by Toe the line 6 · 6⤊ 0⤋
pondering there is about 3 miles putting apart each section by the DMZ alongside fairly some the borderlands, i might want to say it truly is noticeably not likely until eventually that loopy soldier is able to hit a Korean at over two times the gap of the longest-ranged shown sniper kill in historic previous. and that is spelled AWOL (Absent with out go away) And the North Korean retaliation can be a run for canopy because their utter destruction might want to be forthcoming. stupid as their administration is, they are sane adequate to entice close they does no longer very last an afternoon in open conflict.
2016-10-17 08:03:22 · answer #4 · answered by zeckzer 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
It sounds like they shot a drug smuggler in the back, then tried to cover it up. They were convicted by a court of law and then given the mandatory 10 years that the law requires for crimes committed with firearms. :
"But what happened that February day in 2005 — and what's happened since — isn't as black and white as the us vs. them spin on the airwaves and the Internet, where facts are fleeting in the ever emotional debate over the nation's borders."
"Retired Border Patrol agent David Ham, a former assistant chief in El Paso, trekked out to the shooting scene not long ago. He wanted to see it for himself as the national outrage grew.
"They're picking the wrong guys to make heroes," he said.
After 31 years in the Border Patrol, Ham heads up the retired agents' association in El Paso. Months back, a Border Patrol official gave the group an overview of the case against Ramos and Compean; Ham and some other retired colleagues have since refused to appear at vigils or news conferences in defense of the men.
"If we believe in what we believe — which is honor first, that's our motto — how can these two guys say they lived up to that?" he said.
The public's almost mythological image of the border, which reduces the reality of the region to a stereotype framed by "insecurities and anxiety," partly explains support for the agents, said Howard Campbell, a cultural anthropologist at The University of Texas at El Paso.
"It's good vs. evil," he said. "They think this is just one emblematic case of the border being out of control and taken over by drug smugglers ... and the United States is being invaded. That's the imagery. ... That overrides the facts."
Really, there are many greater injustices in the world to get upset about than border patrol agents going to jail for shooting someone in the back and trying to cover it up.
2007-02-19 10:03:19 · answer #5 · answered by student_of_life 6 · 0⤊ 3⤋
The kind of America we have is what Bush wants, its all part of keeping Mexico, big business happy, and getting his open borders. We need to, control our borders and ports, deport all illegal immigrants, and stop Bushs open borders plan. ( And for antis suck ) no buddie , they did not shoot a guy who was only looking for a better life. They shot a know drug runner. Drug dealers and runners, are some of the lowest life people in the world.
2007-02-19 06:59:44 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 8⤊ 0⤋
The blindness of justice was demonstrated when those we assigned to defend this country are put on trial for doing their job. Politics had more to do with the who thing than justice. The other case of the sheriff's deputy that was also convicted proves how radical elements have blocked justice in pursuit of their weakening of our country. President Bush should give all three men a presidential pardon. PERIOD>
2007-02-19 06:29:28 · answer #7 · answered by mr conservative 5 · 10⤊ 2⤋
the jury must have been all for the illegals. they are commies. bored, if the illegal was shot 13 times he would be dead. what did they do shoot him 13 times in the rear?lmao.
2007-02-19 08:05:49 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 4⤊ 0⤋
innocent illegal?
Let the border patrol do their jobs. If it means that some of those entering this country illegal die in the process, sorry, but that's the risk. I sound cold hearted at times, I do apologize. Stop breaking our Laws.
Border patrol that do their jobs correctly, deserve our thanks, NOT prison.
sick_of_liars - shame on you..
2007-02-19 07:20:49 · answer #9 · answered by sassy 6 · 7⤊ 1⤋
I agree with the first answer.
2007-02-19 06:31:09 · answer #10 · answered by Gottlos 4 · 8⤊ 3⤋