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In this scenario, you will come to the same conclusion every time. You have no ability to make a different choice. The brain runs like a computer and your thoughts are output. The output will be the same if you have the same initial state and the same input. If that is the case, how can you possibly say you have free will? Your choices are determined by physics and chemistry, not free will.

2007-02-19 02:40:29 · 9 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Yes....there might be completely random processes in physics, but if so that still does not equal free will.

2007-02-19 02:43:23 · update #1

DaisyKristina: But your brain determines what sensory input you will subject yourself to, and it had no choice in doing so.

2007-02-19 02:46:19 · update #2

Your brain has determined through calculations what sensory input it wants to receive. You are not choosing it. It's already been determined.

2007-02-19 02:47:10 · update #3

dbytz: I agree you might not get the same exact result, but for you to have free will you need an uncaused thought that is not determined by anything else. That can't happen. Randomness or fuzziness is not the same as free will. We should remove criminals form society though. Punishment for sake of revenge is useless.

2007-02-19 02:50:17 · update #4

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There is no free will. We don't determine what info we recieve, or how are brain interprets it. We are a product of the sum of everything that has happened to us before, and the tendencies that we inherent in our genes. With omniscience (about the past), a person's every word and action could be predicted.

People would like to believe that they have free will, but they don't.

Ah, yes, that is the tricky part: what to do with criminals? Then we enter the realm of utilitarianism. What is best for the greatest number of people? In that case, locking criminals away is the key.

But that isn't what we are discussing. It's a logical fallacy: an appeal to conscience. Lets stick to the topic at hand, no matter the implications of what we discuss.

Oh, and bringing God up does nothing for this conversation. Your PERSONAL beliefs, and what you can quote from some book, are irrelevant.

2007-02-19 03:00:48 · answer #1 · answered by riven3187 3 · 0 0

Key phrase: "In this scenario". That means if the following is a true and accurate description of how the brain works, then (essentially) there is no free will. State and input are not really accurate descriptors of neural nets and fuzzy logic, nor has it been proved that an individual will make the same decision in the same circumstances.

Consider this, if there is no free will, you should not punish criminals as they had no choice about their actions.

2007-02-19 02:47:59 · answer #2 · answered by Pirate AM™ 7 · 0 0

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2016-10-17 08:01:53 · answer #3 · answered by zeckzer 4 · 0 0

Free Will comes as a result of study and controlling your Own Input!! If you don't get the message Jesus sent it's because You Didnt Care!! You have to elect to Add to your input after you are away from your parents. And the Bible says that the heathen (as in, say Haiti and Voodoo families) will be judged by their heart and their decisions toward others and not just because they didn't quite 'get it' that one single day some tired old Christian (or Jimmy Swaggart!) came through!! Peace. @8-)

2007-02-19 02:49:58 · answer #4 · answered by Dovey 7 · 0 0

This seems to me a somewhat silly philosophical sleight of hand to argue we don't have free will.

If I make the choices I do based on previous experiences and the current situation how does that possibly negate free will?

2007-02-19 03:06:32 · answer #5 · answered by Goodly Devil 2 · 0 0

We understand so little of the brain or the mind, that it is hard to say they are identical. Look at it backward for a moment. The Almighty says in His word that He will hold us responsible for our actions. (even if the government won't). In that case, then we must be responsible for our actions, otherwise He would be being unfair in judging us. Therefore we have free will! QED.

2007-02-19 02:47:13 · answer #6 · answered by hasse_john 7 · 0 0

Meat bot, you've asked something like this before. Remember, we choose much of what our sensory input will be - we choose where we'll go every day, what we'll eat, what we'll wear, what we'll read or watch. If we really could be simplified to that level of computer programming, then we are choosing how we program ourselves.

2007-02-19 02:45:01 · answer #7 · answered by daisyk 6 · 0 0

Change the input and the results can be different. What you feed into your mind can be changed and that my friend is called choice.

2007-02-19 02:45:34 · answer #8 · answered by Mr. E 7 · 0 0

There is no such thing as free will.

2007-02-19 02:44:38 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

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