Can anyone eloquently argue with me about immigrants?

Question

I assert post-1945 non-Caucasian immigrants have had more negative impact than positive and this is empirically & statistically qualified. Can anyone possibly argue a case for continued coloured destruction of our nation?

Very few have argued the actual assertion, sintead playing the Leftists' game of slandering anyone whom dares disagrees with multi-culturalism by the derogatory epithet of 'racist'.
Try again peasants-
I have a PhD & you may read my thesis if you wish to seriously enquire- and I won it by scholarship. Air kisses to you appeasers!

Answer 1

your assertion is based on biased and unqualified statistical data which is taken out of context.

I assert that if you really believe this twaddle, then you should put your vote where your mouth is and vote BNP!

Answer 2

Hello again, 'Sir S'...smiled a bit at your 'post-1945' dirge...does that mean the black riots in Bristol and Liverpool ports in the early part of the 20th century don't count in your book?
My ma came from Jamaica two years after, and immediately spent ten years looking after men who couldn't walk back home from Germany, France or North Africa during the war not only on account of having their legs blown to pieces, but their mental stability also - and after she received her degree in psychiatry 27 years later, the families still remembered her...and other West Indian and Asian nurses and doctors who had been more positive about life in England - than even the English.
Your question may have an impressive sprinkling of multi-syllabled words but the only people who will (not too sure on can) argue a case for what you call 'continued coloured destruction' are Costa de Sol ex-pats (who also hate the Spaniards), drunks in England after wolfing down curries and seasoned BNP members.

Answer 3

Your right,and right is right.Just find a black brown or even yellow country worth a dam that's all you really have to do ,look around .China is doing good now with Japan after the white man showed them How .We may of needed to set up their governments ,show them all the inventions that only the whites can give the world.They come to live off us we do not need them.The white man was here before the Indian ,In japan befor the Japanese.Only the white race is not a failure.

Answer 4

So, negative impacts should be destroyed, outlawed or just plain stopped? If we can quantitatively prove that your existence is bad for the environment, bad for the economy (productivity declines as people waste time arguing with you,) bad for the community (hatred shrouded in empirical evidence is still hatred), bad for... Anyway, if we can prove you have a net negative effect using quantitative analysis, do we get the right to silence you?

Let me know.

Answer 5

You, sir, may assert until you are blue in the face.

I have no doubt that evidence exists which could be used to statistically prove your personal or political machinations, and you may be a veritable fountain of anecdotal evidence but empirically qualified evidence? I think not.

Empirically gathered evidence uses working hypotheses which can be tested either by observation or experiment (when used within the social science arena-which you pertain to be). So unless you have two equivalent communities and a control group set up in your back garden(which I seriously doubt) then your 'empirically qualified evidence' is spurious at best, seditious at worst.

Your perception that the post 1945 non-caucasian immigrants are continuing a 'coloured destruction of our nation' is just that-your perception, not, as you claim, empirical fact.

In order to begin to prove your bias argument you have to coveniently disregard the insidious movements of the current government's politically correct, intellectually challenged, tree-hugging lunatics who, as we type, impose conditions on our everyday life while seemingly empowering the criminal element with more human rights than the average camel has hairs.

Our schools, hospitals and armed forces are in disarray through lack of funds and incompetent management not concerted efforts on the part of any 'immigrant offensive'.

I agree that there certain elements within our society which hold an underlying and undeniable threat to our continuing in a democratic society but extremists are not solely indigenous to those who are not caucasian-indeed the biggest threat to Britain's continued independence lies with communist politicians who continue to make decisions about our future from their European political vantage point.

Terrorists, extremists of any denomination, thieves, murderers, rapists, paedophiles and the criminal element as a whole should be judged on their actions-not whether they are pink, green, orange, purple, black or white.

If we stopped pointing the preverbial finger at the colours in our society and re-directed our focus on the grey suits in charge then maybe, just maybe we might see a little more justice, a lot less incompetence and the unpleasant social trends of the last five years in retreat.

Answer 6

I would like to know what empirical or statistical evidence you have to defend your point.

Whether you see their impact as positive or negative would depend on how you weighted their contributions to the social and economic life of the nation, and how you weighted any claimed detrimental effect.

For instance, I imagine that you would count the 52 casualties of the 7/7/05 bombings as a negative impact. Fair enough. But how would you count the lives - maybe hundreds, maybe thousands - saved by non-white doctors working for the NHS in the last 60 years?

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Additional:

YOU haven't yet argued the case FOR your initial position, so we have very little with which to grapple. And I may only have an MA, but it's from Cambridge, so when it comes to a battle of wits you can kiss my airs. You're certainly not showing any intellectual rigour so far with your empty assertions.

To start with the economic angle, do you have any official figures on the amount paid in by the non-white population every year in tax, compared to the amount spent on them in services and benefits?

Answer 7

Why are you blaming every thing on the non-whites, we have some of the greatest non-white professionals in this country and England. Why do you only focus on the bad instead of looking for the positives. I am white and know many of them that should be shipped to a deserted Island, they don't belong in our society, the same goes for all cultures. good and bad in all. Immigrants made this country and it is great except for bigots like you seem to be.

Answer 8

Eloquence does not equate to using words like 'empirically and statistically' and there is no such evidence to support your assertion. If there were no non-Caucasians in the UK there would be no National Health Service, Social Services support personnel, world class athletes, musicians, 24 hour convenience stores, taxi services and so much more.

I lived in England in the 50's and 60's when there were few non-Caucasians. Everything was too expensive because Caucasians preferred striking to working. You couldn't buy anything you needed after 5.30pm or at weekends because Caucasians were too lazy to offer 24 hour service. The UK could not have a World Heavyweight champion (like Lennox Lewis), we could only watch other countries who had them. And our caring services were in desperate need of staff as was our public transport.

I would not like to return to the days when England was rapidly sliding into world obscurity.

They also add to our desperately minimal ability to provide enjoyable food. There are not many people in England today who don't like a curry, or Peking duck, or a pizza or lots of the other things that spice up our dreadfully inadequate repertoire

Answer 9

Give your supporting data. If you are making a claim, it is you that needs to offer the support for that claim, not rely on others to disprove you. It would be like me saying to you that "I assert that your life has had more negative than positive impact on society. And this is empirically and stastically qualified. Can anyone possible argue a case for the continued waste of resources you are?"

If we are allowed to make claims without evidence, you have to admit my claim is as valid as yours.

Answer 10

No. It is not clear from your questions whether you wish to argue about non-Caucasian immigrants or coloured immigrants. Until you realise that most Caucasians are coloured, I fear no one will really have a clue what you wish to argue about.

Answer 11

cant argue with you but you dont need a dictionary with big words just take a walk down your local street and watch the news and after all that if people feel they do bring more of a positive impact watch crimewatch