talks about unity?

Question

today in the newspapers in the Uk there is talk about uniting the Catholic and Anglican church
this is due to their mutual dislike for homosexuals
leaving the Pope as head of the church and taking the Queen away from her position
is this reason to unite ?
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article1403702.ece
will it really happen ?
what would be the results if it did ?

it is a safe link Ents ... you know me well and i wouldnt post otherwise

Answer 1

heh, so christians unite in their hatred for gay people.

wow...thats freakin sad.

Answer 2

I am not really sure about the answer to this question but I can make a guess. I know most Christians and Catholics are praying for unity in the world especially for peace. Catholics and Anglicans are Christians so I think it would be a good idea if they unite. We are praying for the unity of all Christians and of all Christian churches. Maybe this could be a start of something good. I don't know exactly know how it will happen. I know it will come about as a gift from God and the Holy Spirit who bring about love and unity. I think if it would happen, maybe other Christians will also realize the supremacy of the Pope and the Catholic Church. The Anglicans and the Catholics all belonged to the same Catholic Church. Henry the VIII changed the rules when he wanted to divorce his wife and marry another woman. The Pope did not allow divorce and still does not allow divorce, so Henry the VIII made his own church and declared himself the head of the new Anglican Church. This began the separation of the Christian churches and many other churches sprung out from this separation. Maybe the heads of the Anglican Church are recognizing the mistake of Henry the eighth. If they do the other Christian Churches may follow suit but that would take some time. Luther also made his own church. Henry the eighth was not the only one responsible for the separations. If unity is achieved the period of peace promised at Fatima may be fulfilled.
This may signal the nearing of the coming of Jesus but this may still take some time. Nevertheless, we must always be prepared to meet God whenever He will come to judge the living and the dead.

Answer 3

It's an interesting point Pangel. Rather like Ent, I was under the impression that there has been a trend towards unity for some time now.

My concern is that it would be sad if what appears to a be a positive move to reconciliation came about because of such an argument. And while the Catholic church may have been 'flexible' about celibacy, there are other issues.

For example, I can't see the issue of women who have already been ordained being resolved quite so simply. Such doctrinal differences leave a question mark over what's to happen to the 'liberals' in the Anglican Communion.

So while there may be a shuffling of allegiances here and there it seems to me that there will continue to be separate churches in some form. The schism may have gone too far for complete 'unity' I'm afraid.
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Answer 4

The answer from Hope is the reason why there can be no reconciliation. Anglicans should realise that neither the pope nor the Catholic Church have the supremacy they claimed to have.

When the masses were finally allowed to read the bible for themselves, without any help from the Catholic Church may I add, they realised they had been misled for centuries. The pope is nothing but a man. There is nothing in the Testaments giving him nor any other man supremacy over another. Nor does his church have supremacy over any other. They have merely become the largest through lies, deceipt and murder.

Answer 5

Its probably only a small segment, as the Anglican denomination has a reputation for allowing many different views on the non-key aspects of christian faith.
They probably are not against homosexuals per se, its just having them in positions of authority is the problem for them. This is because they would regard homosexuality as a sin, and (the epistles teach) someone into substantial sin isn't going to have a good ongoing fellowship with God, so they won't be such a good leader, although they might have quite good natural leadership qualities and plenty of ambition.

Answer 6

Interestingly the Church in great Britain was nothing to do with Rome for some years. There were monastery's all over Britain who were independent from any organisation. Then Rome took them over until old Henry did the dirty deed.

I actually think the Church has nothing to do with any organisation in reality. We can be sure of one thing. That the BODY of Christ which is the CHURCH will be built, but not because of organisations, but because Jesus is doing it.

Pangle if there are any wrong spellings scuse me lol

Answer 7

Hey they are a match made in heaven, One can't abide the thought that a priest might be gay, the other's an organisation for the protection of Paedo's.They really understand what christ meant when he said "suffer little children".

Seriously though why not, Anglicanism only actually came about because an English King couldn't get a divorce when he wanted one, doctrinally they're almost the same.

Answer 8

I may get excommunicated this year, I feel uncomfortable when passions rise uncontrollably in people.
Well on one hand I don't know, and (I'm not being rude - really) It won't affect my life, so I do not care.
We are all gifted, by GOD, with free will, so no two humans believe the same things anyway.
Human laws are not usually related to the 2 commandments Jesus taught us.

Answer 9

I don't know what that article says, I am wary of links here, but I do know that the Anglican mission is the unification of ALL Christianity, that has been their mission from the beginning, and it doesn't have anything to do with homosexuality.

I think it is a noble but difficult task, and it would be wonderful to see the entire body of Christ united.

Answer 10

i honestly don't know but it must be good for the Christian church i think that gay couples adopting is wrong but i have no objection to homosexuals doing anything else

Answer 11

Is that all they have to be bothered with? What about all the wars, what about the children starving to death every day, or dying because of preventable diseases. I wish they'd put themselves to some good use, instead of hating.