Jehovah witnesses: What do u think about these verses that show Jesus to be God?

Question

Titus 2:13 "Looking for the blessed hope and the appearing of our great God and Savior, Christ Jesus." (NAS) Notice that Jesus is called both God and Savior.

Romans 9:5 "Christ, who is God over all, forever praised" (NIV).

Matt. 1:23 "And they shall call His name Emmanuel, which being interpret ted means, God with us." Jesus is God with us. (KJV)

John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." (KJV)

John 20:28 Thomas answered and said unto Him, "My Lord and my God!" (KJV) Notice that Jesus did not rebuke Thomas for calling Him "God."

Acts 20:28 "Be on guard for yourselves and for all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood." (NAS) God purchased the church with His own blood, meaning Jesus' blood was God's blood.

Answer 1

All of the Scriptures mentioned in this so-called "question" either teach or imply that Jesus (the Son) is a god, but none of them teach that Jesus the Son is the same person as God the Father. Taken in isolation, one might suppose that each verse might reinforce an existing prejudiced idea that "Jesus is God", but it would be impossible for a regular bible reader to ignore for long the bible truth that Jesus Christ the Son is a distinct person from Jehovah God the Father.

Take for example, the last Scripture in the "question": Acts 20:38.

Admittedly, the most literal translation of Acts 20:38 might include the phrase:
"...shepherd the congregation of God, which he purchased with the blood of his own."

But the blood of God's own "what"? Trinitarianism insists that God and Christ are the same person and so Trinitarians insist that this verse must be awkwardly translated as ""...shepherd the congregation of God, which he purchased with the blood of his own [self]." But what do other bible verses have to say about whose blood actually purchased the congregation? Does the totality of the bible say it was with 'the blood of God's own self' or with 'the blood of God's own son'? (Caps added to below citations.)

(Romans 8:3,11) God, by sending HIS OWN SON in the likeness of sinful flesh... [God the Father] will also make your mortal bodies alive

(Romans 8:31,32) God is for us, who will be against us? He who did not even spare HIS OWN SON but delivered him up for us all

(John 3:16,17) God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son... For God sent forth his Son

(Ephesians 1:3,6,7) Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ... [God] kindly conferred upon us by means of his loved one. By means of him we have the release by ransom through the blood of that one

(1 John 1:5,7) God is light... the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin.


Incidentally, most of Christianity agrees that Christ's blood serves as a ransom. To whom is that ransom paid if not to God; could God pay a ransom to himself?

(Hebrews 9:14) the blood of the Christ, who ...offered himself without blemish to God

Answer 2

Jehovah and his firstborn Son loved close association for billions of years—lengthy in the previous the starry heavens and the earth were created. How they ought to have loved one yet another! (John 3:35; 14:31) This pricey Son grow to be a useless ringer for his Father. it is the reason the Bible refers back to the Son as “a useless ringer for the invisible God.” (Colossians a million:15) certain, at the same time as a human son would heavily resemble his father in dissimilar approaches, this heavenly Son pondered his Father’s characteristics and personality. The Bible calls Jesus “the firstborn of all creation.” (Colossians a million:15) basically imagine—Jehovah’s Son grow to be in existence in the previous the actual universe. How lengthy, then, were Father and Son mutually? some scientists estimate that the universe is 13 billion years previous. yet, regardless of if this estimate is actual, it does no longer be lengthy sufficient to signify the existence span of Jehovah’s firstborn Son! How grow to be he occupied throughout the time of all those a at the same time as? The Son joyfully served as his Father’s “draw close worker.” (Proverbs 8:30; John a million:3) Jehovah and his Son worked mutually to deliver all different issues into being. What interesting, satisfied situations that they had! Who people, then, can initiate to fathom the potential of a bond that has existed over such an gigantic span of time? obviously, Jehovah God and his Son are united through the most precious bond of love ever solid

Answer 3

JW's use their own "translation" of the Bible. Many of their "explanations" of these verses will refer to that version which renders the verses in a way that more closely matches their doctrine. Their version, however distorts the word of God and does not agree in many places with other translations that are considered reliable.

One example is in John 1, their translation does not say Jesus was God, but it says the word was "a" god.

Notice the following web site for a discussion of JW doctrine.

Answer 4

Dear Here and Now,

I am not a Watchtower Witness.

You gave excellent Bible verses but as one poster said they probably won't convince the jws.

I would like to call your attention to a wonderful chart which can be found at http://www.soulright.com
It is called One Truth Exposes a Thousand Lies - Traits Shared Between Jehovah and Jesus

I now print out copies of the chart to have available for when jws knock on my door. When they insist I read the current magazine or their book-of-the-month to prove their bizarre claims I give them a copy of the chart. As one friend said "That's a suspiciously high number of qualities that Jehovah and Jesus share. And since Jehovah God will not share His glory with anyone (Isaiah 42:8) it seems odd that the two have the same characteristics through and through."

It sounds to me as though you are praying that God will open the blind eyes of these false prophets and I want you to know that I add my prayers to yours!

Answer 5

I'm not J.W., but:

They sound fine, except maybe Acts 20:28. If you tell it to someone else, they might get the impression that Jesus and God are two separate people, and Jesus purchased the "church" for God.

Answer 6

It would take up too much space to address all of your verses. So I will just address a few.

Titus 2:13 “Awaiting our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ.” However, NW reads: “while we wait for the happy hope and glorious manifestation of the great God and of the Savior of us, Christ Jesus."

Which translation agrees with Titus 1:4, which refers to “God the Father and Christ Jesus our Savior”? Although the Scriptures also refer to God as being a Savior, this text clearly differentiates between him and Christ Jesus, the one through whom God provides salvation.

Ro. 9:5. Is this verse saying that Christ is “over all” and that he is therefore God? Or does it refer to God and Christ as distinct individuals and say that God is “over all”? Which rendering of Romans 9:5 agrees with Romans 15:5, 6, which first distinguishes God from Christ Jesus and then urges the reader to “glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ”?

This identity of Jesus Christ as Immanuel did not mean he was the incarnation of God, ‘God in the flesh,’ which proponents of the Trinity teaching claim is implied by the meaning of Immanuel, namely, “With Us Is God.” It was a common practice among Jews to embody the word “God,” even “Jehovah,” in Hebrew names. Even today Immanuel is the proper name of many men; none of whom are incarnations of God.

If there seems to be a conflict between the angel’s instructions to Mary (“you are to call his name Jesus”) and Isaiah’s prophecy (“she will certainly call his name Immanuel”), let it be remembered that Messiah was also to be called by yet other names. (Lu 1:31; Isa 7:14) For example, Isaiah 9:6 said concerning this one: “His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace.” Yet none of these names were given to Mary’s firstborn as personal names, neither when he was a babe nor after he took up his ministry. Rather, they were all prophetic title-names by which Messiah would be identified.

No matter what spin you try to put on a verse to make it appear to say Jesus is God, the message from the Bible is that Jesus is not God, but God's Son. John 10:36

Answer 7

The bible calls both Jesus and the Devil as a God.
2Cor. 4:4 – “The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers”

Of course the Devil is not the father and neither is Jesus.

The Hebrews separated the father's name from his son’s own name making it easier for us to know the difference between them.

Creator = Yahweh in Hebrew, Iehova/Jehovah in English
Creator’s Son = Yeshua in Hebrew, Iesus/Jesus in English

Before anything existed, our planet earth, our universe, even the sprit world called the heavens, there was only the creator. His first action was to create a son (Yeshua/Jesus) and between the two of them created everything else.

Colossians 1:15 - He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn* of all creation.

Answer 8

im not jw but i think many ppl are deceived in ref to Jesus being God..and it all begins in Genesis..... "and the Word was with God,and the Word was God" ....should be "and the Word was with God, and the Word was "A" God" ..would be a more accurate translation.... there has always been God the Father..and the Word has always been with Him.. but it would seem obvious to me that there are TWO distinct beings.... when the tower of babel was being built, God says let US go down...when Jesus prayed He prayed to His Father...not to himself...the Word may have even taken human form during the reign of Solomon...
" the High Priest Machelsedik, who had neither mother nor father nor number of days" .. .. the Word has always been ...just as the Father has always been ...

Answer 9

GOOD POINT YOU HAVE THERE SO WHAT EXACTLY IS IT ANY WAY MAN //// HE IS OUR LORD AND SAVIOR HE IS OUR KING AND SOON TO RULE THIS EARTH /// HE IS NOT HOWEVER THE GOD THER IS GOD THE FATHER AND GOD THE SON JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD STILL GOD HE IS THE ONE WE WORSHIP THE FATHER THROUGH BUT THERE STILL IS THE FATHER GOD WHOM IS THE CREATOR AND GOD OF ALL /// BESIDES WHAT DOES IT ACTUALLY MATTER THERE MAN ARE YOU TRYING TO START A ARGUEMENT OR SOMETHING IF YOU ARE THEN MY FRIEND YOU ARE NOT DOING AS JESUS WOULD DO ARE YOU

Answer 10

LORD, Lord and lords.

I for one get the idea that people in general do not understand LORD God the God and Father, from Lord God [ David said, " The LORD said unto my Lord," [ Lord is Jesus Matt.22:42-45]; From Satan as god, from John 10:34-36; Jesus called them gods to whom the word of God came AND ABOVE ALL IS LORD God Deut.10:17 [ The LORD your God is God of gods ];
Satan is god of this world 2Cor.4:2,4;
John17:3,5,24;
Jesus was with God before the world was.
Col.1:15-17;
Jesus first creation created in the image of God. Rev.3:12,14;
Gen.1:26;
God said,"Let us make man in our image, after our likeness." Jesus and Adam only.
John 17:1-26;
The holy spirit binds God, Jesus and holy angels and all God's elect together as one.
This is why 1000 religions all different, claiming holy spirit means something's wrong.
Acts 2:27-35;
Jesus was crucified, resurrected by Jehovah, ascended to him to wait until Satan and unholy angels are barred from heaven and Satan has a SHORT TIME IN END TIMES.

John 3:13-17;
No one went to heaven but Jesus John 6:39.40.44; 14:3 TO PREPARE A place for the raised up at the last day, Mark 13:27; Heb.12:22-24; 1Thes.4:15-17; ALL IS DONE by Michael of Jude 9; and Dan.12:1-13 end times with holy angels at Rev.12:1-12 [ THE god OF THIS WORLD IS BARRED FROM HEAVEN AND HAS A SHORT TIME in end times];
Matt.28:18;
All power is give me [ Jesus BY GIVER ], in heaven and on earth [ Jesus appointed, anointed, and is Messiah, Emmanual and Christ of the most high God and Father of all John 20:17; John 14:13-15,26,28; 16:23.26; PRAY TO GOD IN JESUS NAME, THE HOLY SPIRIT IS GIVEN IN JESUS NAME. Isa.9:6,7; Our God is born, ALL GIVEN HIM BY GIVER ]; [ Gal.4:26; Rev.21:1-5,9,10 Is Jesus and his Bride our new PARENTS? as we see what Adam and Eve did, if so, be Jesus Father, we his family is everything ];
Rev.20:1-6,12,13; No Satan 1000 years. Jesus is over heaven and earth?
The heavenly first 1Cor.15:22-28,51-53; for the new heavens is with Jesus, to resurrect the earthly for the new earth Rev.3:12; 21:1-5 coming down out of heaven from God to make all new, 8 the second death; Rev.20:7-10; end of 1000 years all is cleansed. ALL PERFECT pass into the kingdom paradise of God Rev.2:7; God is all in all. Luke 23:43; Jesus promised paradise. God is in paradise 2Cor.12:2,4;