Could you please tell me toy poodle and Havanese's pros and cons? I'm debating over which breed to get.

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Also, which breed tends to be healthier with less diseases? Thanks!!

Answer 1

Here ya go. :)
Good things about a Havanese
* Is small, yet sturdier (and healthier) than his Maltese cousin
* Is playful and entertaining
* Is polite with people and other animals
* Has a long coat that doesn't shed (often a good choice for allergy sufferers)

Not so great things...
Separation anxiety" (destructiveness and barking) when left alone too much
Shyness or fearfulness when not socialized enough
Housebreaking difficulties
Barking
Frequent brushing and combing
Very high price tag

My Havanese doesnt bark very much. She also wasnt difficult to housebreak, but all are differnet.

Good things about Poodles
* Is small, easy to carry, light and graceful, athletic and agile
* Has a curly coat that doesn't shed (one of the best breeds for allergy sufferers)
* Comes in a variety of colors
* Is lively and playful
* Is one of the brightest and most attentive of all breeds, so intuitive, and such a skilled reader of body language and expression, that he often appears telepathic
* Excels at obedience and agility competition
* Is usually polite with strangers and sociable with other animals

Not so Great things...
* A careful search to avoid all the highstrung, neurotic Poodles
* Timidity or skittishness when not socialized enough
* Emotional sensitivity to stress, tension, or loud voices
* Monthly clipping of the curly coat
* Barking
* Lots of health problems

So Poodles have a higher risk of health problems. Good Luck! :)

Answer 2

I once had an elderly lady for a friend. She had a wonderful little dog. A mix of some sort. She had the dog trained well and it behaved very well. Learn here https://tr.im/4p1q5

She kept an uncovered candy dish on her coffee table with candy in it. The dog was forbidden to eat the candy. When she was in the room observing the dog he did not even appear to notice the candy. One day while she was in her dinning room she happened to look in a mirror and could see her dog in the living room. He did not know he was being watched. For several minutes he was sitting in front of the candy bowl staring at the candy. Finally he reached in and took one. He placed it on the table and stared at it, he woofed at it. He stared some more, licked his chops and PUT IT BACK in the bowl and walked away. Did he want the candy, oh yeah. Did he eat it? Nope. They can be trained that well but most, I'll admit, are not trained that well. When I was a young boy, maybe 5 years old. We had a german shepherd. He was very well trained also. My mom could leave food unattended on the table, no problem. She would open the oven door and set a pan roast beef or roast chicken on the door to cool. No problem. He would not touch it, watched or not. But butter? Whole other story. You leave a stick of butter anywhere he could reach and it was gone. He was a large shepherd so there were not many places he could not reach. Really, I think the number of dogs trained to the point they will leave food alone when not being supervised is very small indeed.
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Now if we are talking obedience training, not food grubbing, that is a different story. Way back when I was first learning obedience training one of the final exercises was to put our dogs in a down/stay and not only leave the room but leave the building for 15 minutes. The only person that stayed was our trainer, not the owners. Most of the dogs in my class did not break their stay, which would be an automatic fail. I'm happy to report my dog was one of the ones that passed.

Answer 3

I love the Havanese. They aren't as inbred as poodles, and are less inclined to be yappy.

Toy Poodles, while intelligent, are generally more active, aren't as good around children, tend to be a little unstable, demand attention and are yappy. If inbred, they can be downright vicious.

Havanese are smart,agile, thrive on human companionship, love to be up high, and do well with children.

Both breeds are inclined towards very specific illnesses.

Answer 4

Hi there, this site has reviews of dogs by actual owners & may help you to make up your mind:

Havanese
http://www.hoflin.com/BR/Havanese

Poodle
http://www.hoflin.com/BR/Poodles

I'm not sure if you plan to rescue or to buy a puppy - if it's the latter then you may like to research the breeders in your area - maybe other factors in deciding which to get might be availability near you & how friendly/helpful the breeders are?

Maybe also go along to a dog show & get chatting to owners - that way you get to see both in the 'flesh' as it were & get the info on what they are like, health wise, from people who should really know.

I've also found a toy poodle forum - which discusses health issues:
http://www.thetoypoodle.com/

& a Havanese forum:
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Havanese-InfoCenter/

There are lots of other forums out there too.
Hope this helps. Best wishes

Answer 5

ewww, you picked two aweful breeds for cons
toy poodles have tendencies towards low blood sugar, slipped knees, slipped elbows, dentition problems, ego problems, over breeding issues in general

havanese are mat factories, they are assertive to the point of being bullish and they have pretty much the same issues as toy poodles without the blood sugar thing but they get kidney problems sometimes

heatlh wise the havanese will be easier, overall because they are bigger but they are much higher maintenence

why not a miniature poodle, they have far less health and temperment issues??? or a bichon?

Answer 6

Go on line and look under, Dog Breeders List.
You can read all the pro and con you want. It's
best to get the real facts.

Answer 7

Poodles are incredibly smart and perceptive.
If you want a dog with smarts then a poodle is it.