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Please try to give me something that is not based on the doctrine of "free will."

2007-02-18 15:30:27 · 30 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

I'm speaking only from a Judeo-Christian perspective. Karma type answers, those about other gods, and those that somehow blame me (like in a past life) do not cut it.

To me, love implies intervention. If God intervenes, it's an act of love, if He doesn't it's an act of betrayal and hate. Would you stand with your hands folded while some stranger is raping or beating your child? It may be their "free will," but it is your obligation and responsibility to intervene. Since God is a Father, why doesn't He intervene like any reasonable human father would?

None of this taught me anything positive. I only learned to be bitter, cynical, and spiteful. So much for adversity bringing character. My only consolation is that my parents are getting punished.

Another thing, I not only prayed constantly to keep my parents from abusing me, but I've prayed almost daily to remove the consequences of their abuse. NONE of those prayers were answered.

2007-02-18 16:06:55 · update #1

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I wish you had email. Let me ask you a question if you don't mind. What have you learned from your experience? Have you ever helped anyone with a similar problem? Will you strive to not do this same thing to others? Are you qualified to help someone else desperately in need in the same situation.

Where was God while this happened? He wept. He wept for his child, you.

There is a higher purpose for everything that happens.

Suffering as an instrument of God may give people insight, compassion, depth of spirit, strengthening of faith, while at the same time purifying and sanctifying their lives and bringing them into conformity to the image of Jesus Christ.

God allows suffering because it teaches us that without God we would have no strength. He is our burden bearer. Suffering humbles, making us realize that it is only God who lifts us up. The pain of this world increases our faith and stretches our hope to God. In many cases He even uses suffering to turn towards Himself the eyes of those who would otherwise never see the light of His love.

God does not gloat over our pain. When our heart breaks, His is crushed. When we cry, He mourns. When we are numb, He will feel for us. Our suffering matters to the Almighty Creator who gave His own dear Son to die for this fallen race of mankind.

God was not the inventor of pain. This was our choice. Because of our sin, the world suffers. Our wicked, sinful, human nature caused the earth to fall far beyond what God wanted for it. So--we must pay the consequences of our actions. Yet God in His greatness uses the pain we inflicted upon ourselves to His praise and glory. He even uses suffering for our good.

2007-02-18 15:49:35 · answer #1 · answered by Gardener for God(dmd) 7 · 1 1

I wish I knew; maybe that's where he was when my parents and grandparents were abusing me. It sickens me when people say, oh god had nothing to do with it, people make their own choices. Bullsh*t. If god is powerful enough to create this world, then he is powerful enough to step in and stop a child's pain. The truth is, he doesn't care. (okay, actually, the truth is he doesn't exist, but I'll pretend that he does for now) I mean, what is he waiting for? If he wants to take care of us all, then why doesn't he? It doesn't make any sense. And you know the saddest part? If your parents are already christians (like mine) or become christians, god will forgive them for everything they did to you. No questions asked. No punishment, no justice. Just forgiveness. AND he will expect you to do the same thing. Otherwise you become the bad guy. I don't see how anyone could worship someone like that, I truly don't.

I read several answers that say god wanted to see how you would react. Well, I hate to break it to you, guys, but god already knows. That is what omniscient means. And you know what we call people who just like to watch people suffer? Perverts.

2007-02-18 15:46:13 · answer #2 · answered by Jensenfan 5 · 2 0

It's quite well documented how vengeful, petty and mean God is. Unfortunately you will still get believers side-stepping your question even as they respond to it. mrfame's response makes my blood boil, and River Girl isn't much better.

I am sorry for what they put you through, and I hope that the scars heal quickly, both physical and emotional.

Edit: Even more of them slipped in while I was typing. I am a patient man, but if this were a personal discussion, I would probably be beating the snot out of somebody by now.

2007-02-18 15:43:15 · answer #3 · answered by Anthony Stark 5 · 2 1

Hon, you're able to get out of the domicile. Being abused isn't a "widely used existence." p.c.. up your stuff (discreetly) and take all your money, all significant stuff, and get outfits. Take some nutrition from the refrigerator and cabinet while they are asleep. positioned all of it in bags, and bypass away in the path of the evening. in case you have a cellular telephone, take that and your charger. in case you do no longer take the domicile telephone. in case you do no longer prefer to try this, you are able to bypass someplace with a telephone or ask somebody in case you additionally could come to a decision on their telephone. you quite do could call the government. that is greater widely used to stay in foster care and bypass to a actual college than that's to be domicile schooled by ability of abusive father and mom. You gotta do this. even in the adventure that your sister does not be very sympathetic, only ask in case you are able to stay together with her for some weeks till you will come across someplace to stay.

2016-11-23 17:51:33 · answer #4 · answered by Erika 4 · 0 0

Have you ever lied, or stolen, or cheated, or lusted after somebody in a sexual manner, have you ever been angry, or filled with thoughts that you knew were wrong?
Should God interject Himself into our lives whenever we sin or make a mistake? If God were to do this, we would have no need for a Savior, God would simply stop us from sinning or doing destructive things and life would be perfect. God never said that our lives would be perfect, we live in a sinful world, inhabited by sinful people and we all make bad decisions and we all do things that hurt others at some time or another. It is not Gods desire to have us be robots, He wants us to learn from our mistakes, this helps us better understand the consequences of sin and how devastating it can be. Your parents were not listening to the voice of God when they did these things. They chose to listen to a different voice. We all sin and fall short of the glory of God. You sin, I sin, your parents sin, my parents sin, everyone sins.
Try not to blame God for OUR sins. He gives us His Ten Commandments to guide us. Human beings say that pornography is OK...it is legal. God says it is immoral.
Humans say that expressing anger is good, God says it is wrong.
Human kind has perverted Gods laws and twisted them to fit our own evil desires. This is not Gods doing, rather, it is our doing.
We all, through our sins, contribute to the moral decay in which we find ourselves in. God knows the horrible consequences sin will bring to us all. That is why He hates sin and why He will punish those who love sin, with eternity in hell.
Today, we are paying for the bad decisions we have made in the past, as a people and a nation. The bad decisions we make today, future generations will pay for. We are ALL sinners and we ALL contribute to the fallen state of the world today.
Don't let the actions of your parents cause you bitterness towards God. He told them not to do it, they chose not to listen.
If you will listen to God now, with all your heart and soul and stop doubting His sovereignty, I am sure He has many blessings awaiting you. Your family and friends will let you down, Christ Jesus will never leave you or forsake you. Trust Him
God Bless You....Peace.

2007-02-18 16:45:26 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

I have thought about this, and I must honestly say that I do not know.

There are so many variables; if God had intervened by killing your parents, would you life have turned out better or worse in the long run? What if God did that every time someone sinned? Where would God draw the line? Would anyone have a chance to reconsider their ways, and make a change in their life of their own free will? Would people become so terrified of God that there was no such thing as free will anymore?


People have struggled with this question for centuries, and usually have come to one of three or four possible conclusions: (i) God does not exist; (ii) God is weak; (iii) God does not care; or, (iv) God’s motives & plans are too complex for us to understand.

I feel sorry that you had to experience what you went through. The only advice that I can offer you is to put the past behind you and make the best of the life that you have now. There is no point in throwing away tomorrow because of a bad yesterday.

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The hurt of my sister's death still haunts me. Where are you God, help me. God I am in such pain, I can't move without pain shooting through my body. Where are you God, help me. We live in a world where pain and suffering is the norm for many people. God where are you when it hurts?...

…. Human beings are resilient and can find ways to rise above suffering - even to the point of finding meaning in the midst of their struggles. Lets look at some ideas that might help us make sense out of suffering.

The first idea is what Jack Wintz calls ambush theology. Wintz says to discern meaning in suffering, we have to clear up some misconceptions regarding God's role in human pain. We fall into an ambush theology when we view God as someone who is out to get us! Overly focused on our sin and doubting our worth we wrongly picture God as hiding along the path of life ready to jump out at us and punish us for offenses we have committed, even those we might not even be aware of.

We are tempted to see sickness and disaster as God's punishment for our human failure….

… How can God's goodness be reconciled with disease or the birth of deformed babies? Why does God let air or highway disasters happen through human ignorance, carelessness, or purposeful intent?...

...Can God take away our freedom to choose and to create order out of chaos? Yes, I believe he can, but to do so means we are no longer human beings, the pinnacle of God's creation. We are nothing more than puppets. We can choose to sin and to go our own way. But when we do we can't blame God for the environment we create for ourselves.

God so respects our human freedom that he will not interfere with that sacred gift, that is the gift of freedom, even if it brings harm upon us. When human beings make destructive moral choices, we can't blame God for these choices or their consequences. We must take responsibility for our choices, and be held accountable for the same. God's will is that we are healed no matter what we are going through....

2007-02-19 13:30:52 · answer #6 · answered by Randy G 7 · 0 0

I cannot even imagine how much you have suffered and I am so sorry you have had to endure it. God has strengthened you to be able to endure it and he will definately act to correct matters as well. He has the entire universe to correct and is going to do it at the moment that is most advantageous for everyone. Please do not be angry and upset at him for doing that. You are not the only one he loves and cares about. Soon, all the scars of your trauma, both physical and emotional will be gone. And you can begin the "real life" he has promised to those who love him.

2007-02-18 17:14:05 · answer #7 · answered by Sparkle1 6 · 0 0

Where was God? In the imagination of religious people. God is created out of fear, nothing more. God wasn't there for me either when I was being abused by my family, because God doesn't exist. There is no power outside man.

and...paradoxically, I'm not an atheist.

God does sort of exist, but not in the way most religions think he does, and certainly not the 'God' that was created out of fear.

I'm sorry you had to go through such abuse hun. The human race is evil like that :/ *hugs*

2007-02-18 16:01:36 · answer #8 · answered by Om Mani Padme Hum 2 · 0 2

It is difficult to explain without expounding the entirety of God's personality. Anyway my answer is this: It is His policy not to intervene. Everthing could be explain with karma or the Golden rule. Right now, you are a sweet loving daughter subjected to abuses in your own background. Why? it had to do with previous lives.

2007-02-18 15:42:06 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 2

I'm sorry that it happened to you. I know there are alot of unanswered questions right now, but I know we will get those answers someday. I've had alot of things happened to me also, but I know that God is bigger and better than anything evil. I do hope that you can overcome this and give God the chance to come into your life and make it whole again. Take care.

2007-02-18 15:37:53 · answer #10 · answered by Unshaken Faith 4 · 2 1

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