Pledge to Flag and Bible?

Question

In the Sunday School I attend, they start the time by everyone saying 3 pledges:
(1) To the Bible - "I pledge to the Bible God's Holy word, adn wil tke it as a lamp unto my feet, a light unto my path, and hide it's words in my heart that I may not sin against God."

(2) To the Christian flag - "I pledge allegiance to the Christian flag and to the Savior for whose kingdom it stands, opne brotherhood uniting all mankind in service and love."

(3) To the flag of the United States of America. I pledge alligence to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands one nation under God with liberity and justice for all.

Is this appropriate in church?

What are the principles that make "separation of church and state" work in the American government? The government says, "We are separating from you" the church, in pledging to the government, says, "No, we are pledging an allegiance to you."
By pledging an allegiance to the government, is the church saying it is in agreement with the policies of the American government? Are Christians suppose to have an allegiance to anything but Christ and in fulfilling their allegiance to Him they fulfill their duties to government?

Answer 1

it's indoctrination, but that's what church is for.
enjoy.

Answer 2

Interesting questions. I know most parochial schools (and non-public ones as well) begin with a pledge of allegiance. I wasn't aware of the first two pledges you mention, but I don't think there's anything that prohibits making the pledges as stated. There's no Scriptural basis to oppose, anyway.

The doctrine of the separation of church and state intends to limit the state's activity so that it stays out of purely religious or ecclesiastical matters. It does not mean that persons of faith should remove themselves from the political process. Quite the contrary - Scripture calls Christians to obey national rulers (Titus 3:1, 1 Peter 2:13), and any emphasis on social justice requires involved citizens.

To pledge allegiance to the flag of the USA honors your citizenship. If you do not wish to do so, I'd suggest talking with your pastor. But for an institution (your parish or church) to ask members to pledge allegiance is not inconsistent with the theology.

Answer 3

In the bible you will not find any scripture that supports saying pledges of support for anything, These are no more than religious garbly **** garbage pledges, You may only be in Sunday school as a young professed Christian, and God's word may be hard to understand, so read your bible and just try believing God instead of some hypocrite that doesn't really know the Lord at all, Churches endorse sending our soldiers to war and calls them hero's when in reality God said LOVE YOUR ENEMIES, you can't love someone while you are killing them. Just gave you that thought to show you how much your Pagan World Church really believes God. I believe God's word, never man's. May you find God's truth and walk with your Father.

Answer 4

I didn't know there was a Christian flag.

A church can swear allegiance to the country, but the United States can't reciprocate.

Its perfectly appropriate in Church, as long as it is agreed upon by whichever members are responsible for making policies.

Answer 5

I really never thought so, even when I attend Awanna stuff when I was 7. I think pledging allegiance to anything is pretty ill-planned, the requirement of which only shows insecurity of the church. They should just say, "The Bible's groovy, dig?" to which the children would respond, "DIG!"

Answer 6

It is up to you and your church leaders what you do in church. However, you try to bring those first two allegiances into a public school and there will be problems.

Answer 7

There is no such thing a separation of Church & State.

" It is impossible to rightly govern the world without God and the Bible". - George Washington

" The Bible is the cornerstone of libery". -- Thoms Jefferson"

"That Book (the Bible), sir, is the Rock on which our Republic rests". - Andrew Jackson

"It is God who gave us life and liberty. Can the liberties of a nation be secure when we have removed the conviction that these liberties are a gift from God?" - Thomas Jefferson

"It is the duty of all nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God and to obey His will". -- George Washington

" We stake the whole future history of this nation upon the ablility of its people to govern & control themselves according to the 10 Commandments". -- James Madison ...Chief Archetect of the US Constistution and 2nd Pres. of US.

"America was founded as a Christian Nation according to John Adams: "The highest history of the American revolutionis this:It connected in ONE INDISSOLUABLE BOND the principles of civil government with the principles of CHRISTIANITY". -- John Adam - 2nd President of the U S
" The American nation from its first settlement at Jamestown to this hour is BASED UPON and permeated BY THE PRINCIPLES OF THE BIBLE". Supreme Court Justice David Joseph Breiver (1837-1910)

"Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indespensible supports". - George Washington.

"OurConstitution was made for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other". _ John Adams

So why should we believe clueless atheists that are trying to convince us otherwise? I choose to believe our Founding Fathers and reject the atheists who are trying to re-write history to suit their own selfish agenda.

Answer 8

How can a pledge to honor and serve be considered inappropriate in any setting, including church?

Answer 9

Church and state are so close they're in bed with each other...so I don't see any harm in it.

Send me an email through the link in my profile if you have questions, comments, or concerns.

Answer 10

It has for the last 48 years that I know of.

Answer 11

There's a Christian flag? What does it look like? I really hope that's not the US flag.