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2007-02-18 13:11:02 · 46 answers · asked by adis2x 1 1 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

46 answers

I can't prove anything.


Several years ago I had an unusual experience concerning an uncle, a distant relative who lived over a thousand miles away.

While driving my car I suddenly felt the unmistakable presence of this relative that I hardly even knew. He was more like someone I had heard about than someone I knew. It was very strange; it felt as though I was momentarily lifted right out of my physical body. I seemed to be suspended somehow beyond space and time, bathed in a love so intense It felt like I could have just disappear into it at any moment if It would have let me. It only lasted for a few seconds, but it seemed to last forever at the same time. I realize how crazy this must sound. The experience was so strong that at first I was afraid I was loosing my grip on reality. I finally managed to chalk it up to an over active imagination.

Three days later I got a call from my aunt telling me that this uncle we are talking about had gone into a coma and died the day I had the experience. It felt like ice water had been poured down my back when she told me this. I had lost any real ideas of God or faith and had become somewhat of an atheist. Needless to say this experience caused me to rethink some of the conclusions I had come to.

I feel blessed to now understand that even in our darkest confusion something loves us so much that it went out of its way to assist me and bring me back to a state of absolute certainty about Gods love for us.
During the experience it seemed like there was a vast amount of information that I was somehow allowed access to. One thing that I came away from this experience understanding beyond any shadow of a doubt was that any Idea that God is unhappy with us or would judge or allow us to be punished for any reason is simply impossible.

I can’t explain the love I felt with words. They simply don’t make words big enough or complete enough to do this. The only way I can begin to convey this love to you is to say that there was simply nothing else there. Nothing but love. No hint of judgment, no displeasure of any sort. It is as though God sees us as being as perfect as we were the day we were created. It is only in our confused idea of ourselves that we seem to have changed.

I hope this is of some help to you. Good luck. Love and blessings.

Your brother don

2007-02-18 13:14:32 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2 2

Your question is related to the cosmological argument for a First Cause of everything:

One needs to have a formalized understanding of logic. Here is a starting point:

Premise: Every event has a cause
Premise: The universe has a beginning
Premise: All beginnings involve an event

Inference: This implies that the beginning of the universe involved an event
Inference: Therefore the beginning of the universe had a cause
Conclusion: The universe had a cause

For something to have caused the universe it must have existed outside of the universe and time. That First Cause could only have been an omnipotent supernatural agent, God.

Another argument is one from design:

1. The universe began to exist
2. The universe has complexity, order and fine-tuning
3. Complexity, order and fine-tuning imply design
4. Design that began to exist implies a designer
5. Therefore, the universe has a designer

Premise 1: See Big Bang theorem (Hawking, Penrose) All matter and time itself began at this moment
Premise 2: Universe has complex designs, e.g, cellular DNA, Laws of Physics, fine-tuning for life on earth, etc.
Premise 3: Nothing ordered can come from chaos, an orderer is required. Laws of Nature are often cited, including Vuletic, as counterexamples, yet these very Laws are themselves ordered.

Premise 4: Self evident. If something did not exist, there is no beginner or designer

Thus, the universe has a designer.

2007-02-18 13:54:28 · answer #2 · answered by Ask Mr. Religion 6 · 0 0

Well, you can't actually prove there is a God, you just have to see it for yourself. If there isn't a God then nothing really makes sense. Just think, the entire universe revolves so that we can be alive, from the way the earth spins to the distance from the sun and that's just coincidence?? Simply take a look around you, if there wasn't a God then how did it it all come to be around you in such beautiful colors and splendor and sound?

2007-02-18 13:19:09 · answer #3 · answered by Jacqui 1 · 0 0

Every intellectual argument requires axioms, which themselves cannot be proven. This was demonstrated in the 19th century by Karl F. Gauss, called by some the “greatest mathematician who ever lived,” who began to question the absoluteness of Euclid’s axioms. Later, in the 20th century, American mathematician Kurt Godel demonstrated logically that no system can be proven without evidence from beyond that system. His paper was hailed universally as one of the most outstanding contributions to mathematics and philosophy in history. Human logic cannot prove anything absolutely. For absolute knowledge, you’ll have to find some other tool.

Nevertheless, the human mind can come to some very educated conclusions. Such as concluding that it is raining outside by going outside and getting wet in the rain. The possibility remains that our senses are lying to us, but we will always need to make some assumptions, if just to survive.

Often, we can assure ourselves with almost absolute certainty without even seeing the thing for ourselves. For example, by looking out the window and seeing the trees swaying we can assume that it is windy. By observing the lights going on, we can assume there is electricity in the wires. Or by bouncing electrons off of sub-microscopic objects, we can construct a working of their form.

So too, the fact that there is a Primal Source for all that exists is one of the most evident facts there is. So is the fact that this Primal Source generates this world with design/intelligence.

The concept of a Primal Source relies on an axiom that all of science relies upon: the Principle of Explanation. This principle simply states that all phenomena must have an explanation. Science is the endeavor of discovering those explanations. Molecules are explained by the dynamics of atoms. Atoms are explained by the dynamics of their sub-particles. The sub-particles are explained by photons. Eventually, there must be an explanation for the existence of matter and energy.

Without this principle, not only would there be no science, there would be no human endeavor whatsoever. In everything we do, we rely on the assumption that each thing has an explanation, thereby providing us with a consistent universe to deal with. Imagine the confusion if everything just appeared as though it had suddenly arrived out of nowhere.

The Primal Source, then, is nothing more than the ultimate explanation for all that exists, the end of the chain.

What then, you ask, is the explanation for this Primal Source? But that is just the concept of a Primal Source: That there is something (if it can be called a “thing”) that does not require an explanation. Because otherwise we are really stuck: Either we surrender and say that there are things that do not require an explanation. Or we just say that the explanations go on and on ad infinitum—which really is the equivalent of saying that the cosmos as a whole has no explanation.

Instead, our alternative is to say that there is a Primal State of some sort that explains everything, including itself. How does it explain itself? Because it is infinite. Meaning it has no bounds or definition, no beginning or end.

2007-02-18 13:18:34 · answer #4 · answered by barx613 2 · 1 0

Easy. He/she/it could come down and prove it themselves - or throught people - through "miracles" - something that obviously violates physical laws as we understand them, something that can't be explained. Like a person flying by flapping their arms, or an amputee getting new limb. That might not prove there is a god to me, but it would definitely interest me into wanting to hear more. But 2000 years so far, and nothing of the sort.

Yeah, looking around me is no proof at all. I look around and see science and PLENTY of proof that there's nothing in charge, nothing looking out for anyone. You're going to have to do MUCH better than that.

2007-02-18 13:15:39 · answer #5 · answered by eri 7 · 0 0

The Christian mafia is going to complain about this question and you will be removed, like so many good people have had their profiles deleted by the discriminatory Christian mafia. I personally think it is a good question, but the anti-democratic, hate filled others (see listed above) do not like when people question anything.

However, the answer to your question is that there is no proof that there is a God, and you can not prove there is a God. However, through simple logic you can prove that the possibility of a God is none if you follow the guise of religious doctrine.

2007-02-18 13:16:49 · answer #6 · answered by corona001500 3 · 1 1

I am not an expert on religion or anything, but isn't NOT being able to prove there is a God the whole point of faith?

At least that is what most believers I know tell me.

2007-02-18 13:14:03 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Hello Adis2x 1. A year ago I met a witch. She put a spell on me. I started having a deep depression, forces and thoughts of killing myself, harming others and becoming crazy. I felt I was possessed. I then realized the Devil existed and so the Darkness. After a year I am cured. I realized that if the Devil existed so the opposite HAD TO EXIST. So the opposite is God, The light, the good spirits. They were the ones who saved me. Today I have so much faith. God is the path. I know one has to go through these things to really have faith. I tell you God exists. It may not be an old man with white hair and beard. He is a huge energy full of light. Argentox2@yahoo.com

2007-02-18 14:29:42 · answer #8 · answered by Lisa 4 · 0 1

Jason M is exactly right
20For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.
Romans 1:20

it amazes me why Atheists and Agnostics call themselves such. You can't call yourself such unless you acknowledge the possibility that there may be a God can you?

2007-02-18 13:23:07 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

It's the same as "how can u prove that there isn't a God?" One question is used frequently by believers and the other question is used frequently by non-believers ;)

2007-02-20 10:21:41 · answer #10 · answered by C L 5 · 0 0

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