I believe reality consists of Mathematical laws and exists by necessity. I don't have the time to explain why I believe that. And without a graduate level understanding of Mathematics and Physics you wouldn't understand anyway.
No one really creates Mathematics, we discover it. It isn't random. I define Mathematics as what is logically necessary. If we created math we could make it other than it is. We can't, we can only discover different parts of mathematics. For example can you make seven not be a prime integer? No you cannot.
Reality is neither created nor the result of random chance. It is instead the result of beautiful mathematical laws. These mathematical laws of such great beauty have been selected by our own existence.
The answer to the origin of apparent complexity, is not to presuppose it was created by an even greater complexity. You don't explain a seeming improbability by a greater improbability. We know how complexity arises in complex systems and it is through selection. In the case of biological systems it is through Natural Selection. You don't need to violate Occam's razor by presupposing an infinitely improbable creator to do it.
Look at Wolfram's rule 110 for a simple example of the power of mathematics , the rule is trivially simple ( Just one line of computer code ). Yet it has been mathematically been proven that it generates any level of complexity desired. You only need to "select" where in the output of that rule you wish to look. Indeed it has been mathematically proven that somewhere within that output one can find any finite output you wish to find. You can find a representation of all of Shakespeare, or all of the DNA of every living thing, or even everything within the observable universe including your beautiful galaxies. The output as a whole is kolmogorov simple however within that simplicity one can select unlimited complexity. The key here is the word "select". Local complexity is selected from simplicity and variance.
In the case of reality we have a profound selection mechanism: "our own existence" We have selected a locally complex and beautiful region of reality because only local complexity and its resulting beauty enables our existence and evolution. For every beautiful region we might find ourselves in there are likely a near infinite number of ugly regions which are completely non-conducive to our existence.
2007-02-18 10:09:23
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answered by Anonymous
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Like who do you think made the universe or created all these wonderful and complex things
I'm not an athiest, but I am not a christian either. I am a Deist. I believe that "a" Supreme Being, who made the universe, but then stepped back and went on walkabout. Has not come back yet. Like you said, the Universe is far to complex to be random.
But I refuse to accept the God of the Bible either. He's too Violent for my liking. Too much killing, he agrees with keeping slaves, he thinks women are chattels, and he gets angry very easily. Christians have been killing other people in the name of religion for the last 2000 years - why on earth should I be part of such a violent religion.
I think Jesus was a great teacher - but thats all he was - a teacher. HE was NOT the son of God. No other human in 2000 years has ever risen from the dead, so I have no reason to beleive that the 2 mentioned in the Bible were ever actually raised from the dead either.
And I detest hypocrites. Just watch George bush and Pat Robertson, Benny Hinn, not to mention Falwell & Bakker.
People who claim to be christian but who constantly ask for money and and spend it on themselves, on their whores, and on flashy clothes and cars. They also say stupid things like "we have to kill the president of Venezuela". Televangelists are supposed to be models. Instead they are hypocrites.
2007-02-18 18:42:09
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answered by Anonymous
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atheists have no beliefs of any sort, if they truly thought they were atheists, they would have to be able to prove that there's not a GOD. Their biggest argument against christianity is that we cannot prove there is a GOD, so a rational person cannot believe in GOD. On the other hand they cannot prove their belief that their isn't a GOD, but they are still rational and intelligent. They more or less are hypocrites.
Is it more rational to say we need more time to find out what we believe or what we can prove, give us more time. Civilization has been around for thousands of years if not millions like atheists say, and not one of your dedicated atheist scientist have come up with an answer. Our GOD will have come and left and you will still need time, because you are searching for what does not exist.
2007-02-18 18:18:43
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answered by Victor V 3
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they believe in things that can be proven. to put it simply do you really think that if not for your god there would be no physics, or mat, or gravity all the things you are asking for are scientific things. are you saying that you don't believe in anything unless you are told by someone else that god made it so. people like you are sheep, all the things you want explained to you have always been there even before you religion ever existed. why don't you start thinking for yourself for once, because if you don't you are going to be really disappointed in the end.
2007-02-18 18:21:50
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answered by drakelungx 3
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well, I believe in having fun, exploring the world, caring about friends and family, enjoying life, trying not to hurt people, doing random acts of kindness, that having a snark at fundies is fun, the internet, you, myself, that the big bang theory and evolution are correct (and seperate), that abiogenesis is a hypothesis but even if wrong a lousy reason to believe in sky daddy, that there is no such thing as soul, or an afterlife or ESP or paranormal activity, that diving is enormous fun, that cars are a really stupid invention, all kinds of stuff really. I just don't believe in god(s).
2007-02-18 18:11:35
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answered by Anonymous
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Faith takes over where reason stops. I believe in myself. I believe in today. I believe in reason. Religion is a wonderful thought; I would love to see my dead grandpa again. I just can't get there from here. There is no reasonable explaination for it. A book says it's true, therefore it is?? I'll write a book that says that you can fly; would you go jump off a bridge?
2007-02-18 20:03:23
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answered by ♥willow♥ 7
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No one made the universe, no one made physical laws. There are many theories about how they came to be (naturally), and they are testable. Give us a few years to build the instruments.
I don't believe in god. That doesn't mean I don't believe in anything, but I don't believe in anything without any reason. I need proof. Why don't you?
2007-02-18 18:13:24
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answered by eri 7
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Who made the universe? Who made god?
2007-02-18 19:06:15
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answered by ? 4
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No offense taken. We believe what we can experience with our senses, what there is sufficient evidence for and that which makes sense and is not contrary to observation and experience.
2007-02-18 18:14:22
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answered by Anonymous
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Everything that actually has some real evidence to back it up.
This is like me asking you that if you don't believe in Odin what do you believe in? The evidence is EXACTLY the same.
2007-02-18 18:07:44
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answered by Anonymous
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