On another topic a christian wrote
"Its living a life of faith in Jesus Christ that one can prove beyond a shadow of doubt that God does indeed exist.
Faith is the SUBSTANCE of things hoped for, the EVIDENCE of things not yet seen. "
To me he is saying that he ' hopes ' god exists even though he has seen no evidence as yet. And therefore god does indeed exist.
is this a firm foundation on which to base a religious philosophy and a way of life?
2007-02-18 02:23:32 · 10 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
evidence of things not yet seen is regarding what we have been saying. There is evidence all around us that God exists. We have not seen him so that is why we need faith. Faith is the substance of where hope comes from.
We don't hope God exists, we have faith he will do what he says and we have a belief that he is the hope and grace we all want and need.
my religious philosophy and way of life are not out of hope but faith. i have faith he will provide b/c he says he will. i have faith that he will return b/c it has already been for told. i have faith the EVIDENCE that i see now all will know to be true. He will return.
God Bless
2007-02-18 02:32:29 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
Whoever wrote this was a fething idiot.
"Faith is the SUBSTANCE of things hoped for, the EVIDENCE"
No. That's an oxymoron. Faith is not evidence of anything, it's simply belief without evidence.
Google "Define faith" and you'll find this concise definition:
"Aceptance of ideals, beliefs, etc., which are not necessarily demonstrable through experimentation or reason."
There is no way you can have "Evidence" that something "Hoped for" will happen.
If it is "Hoped for" it is UNCERTAIN whether it will happen or not.
It is impossible to have "evidence" that something will happen, if it is uncertain whether it will or not, (Because it hasn't happened yet, obviously- And time travel with only confirm ONE outcome, making it no longer "Hoped for" but certain).
In short, it's a load of complete f*cking nonsense, and I advise you to treat whoever spouts this stuff as delusional.
2007-02-18 02:35:28 · answer #2 · answered by Dr. Socks 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The writer was talking about how the Old Testament Jews were looking for the hoped for Messiah. He then goes on to reference all the places in the OT that foretold Jesus' ministry. Jesus was the thing hoped for but not seen by those righteous Jews who died before his birth.
2007-02-18 02:44:29 · answer #3 · answered by Christopher 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Hope doesn't mean a Wish. Hope is faith in what you already know in your heart, and looking forward to what is yet to come. Once Jesus is in your heart, you know beyond a shadow of a doubt that He exists. Paul said, "We have written these things that you may KNOW you have eternal life."
2007-02-18 02:31:29 · answer #4 · answered by Daniel 2 · 0⤊ 1⤋
I am glad that you have brought this to the forum. Christianity is faith-based, not works-based. Works are part of Christianity, but not the basis for its existence. As James says, faith without works is dead, and works without faith is legalism. therefore, faith and works go hand-in-hand. Faith leads to works. The Bible never attempts to prove the existence of God, it just assumes that God does exist. The Bible is God's word. Hebrews chapter 11 is the great faith chapter of the Bible. Verse 6 states that without faith it is impossible to please God. Gods wants us to have faith in him to provide for us, and to have faith in his word this it is the only way to live. He wants us to have faith in the atoning death of his Son Jesus Christ, that Jesus has paid the price for our sins and that id we believe by faith in Jesus that we will be saved. He wants us to believe by faith that we that are saved are inheritors of all the promises given in the Bible.
2007-02-18 02:39:45 · answer #5 · answered by Preacher 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Cool! Someone developed a similar definition of faith as I did and then TOTALLY f***ed it up! Apparently he mythunderstood the impact of post-modernism. His "reality" is not ultimate reality but a "personal reality." But many post-modernists screw this up. "Personal reality" is just perception.
As for it being a "firm foundation" for religious philosophy... Oh, I suppose so. What's a "firm foundation" anyway? Is it publicly traded?
2007-02-18 02:31:39 · answer #6 · answered by Cheshire Cat 6 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Respectfully, does not all actual believers in any equipment of perception, have self assurance that they are extraordinary and others are incorrect? while you're shelter on your perception, i'd think of which you will ought to think of this manner. I even have found out very much approximately different peoples' factors of view in this internet site and appreciate their extraordinary to have self assurance in even though suits them, yet i've got self assurance as a Christian. I made my strategies up years in the past. To have self assurance in "somewhat of this and somewhat of that" is like luke heat tea....to me, it purely does not decrease it. It jogs my memory of the words of Paul. He mentioned, "don't be like them that get tossed from area to area via each wind of doctrine." (my paraphrase) those each physique is ever searching for the reality yet by no ability locate it.
2016-10-15 22:37:24 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
the proof is inside a person and its real to them ... just like if ur in love with someone its real to u but u cannot convey that to another person .. its a spiritual thing ... faith is more than believing .. it has substance ... its knowing.
2007-02-18 02:29:23 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
christian and logic are two words that dont belong together, like intelligent christian, bible study, and christian university.
2007-02-18 02:30:13 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
To them it is but to any normal person it's absurd.
2007-02-18 02:26:58 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 1⤋