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if the true purpose of baptism is to be part of the church and not to remove of the original sin... is there still a connection?

2007-02-17 23:40:05 · 7 answers · asked by chained 3 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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In the Catholic faith, baptism serves both purposes -- to initiate the person into the faith, and to remove the stain of original sin (plus the stain of actual sins committed up to that time, for adults).

When an adult is baptized, he/she makes his/her own profession of faith as initiation into the Church.

When a baby or young child is baptized, the profession of faith is made for him/her by the godparents.

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2007-02-17 23:49:20 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

When we made our first profession of faith while receiving the holy Baptism that cleansed us, the forgiveness we received then was so full and complete that there remained in us absolutely nothing left to efface, neither original sin nor offenses committed by our own will, nor was there left any penalty to suffer in order to expiate them. . . . Yet the grace of Baptism delivers no one from all the weakness of nature. On the contrary, we must still combat the movements of concupiscence that never cease leading us into evil.

2007-02-18 08:29:40 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Calvinists believe that original sin is not taken away through baptism. However, baptism still involves a covenant that replaces Old Testament circumcision. Keep in mind, though, that God is not bound by the rite of baptism! He saves who he is going to save, and even though Esau was circumcised, the rite was ineffective for him as God did not accept that circumcision. Baptism of babies is what we do in fulfillment of that covenant, but the ultimate decision belongs to God, not man, as to who will be among the sheep and who will be among the goats.

2007-02-19 22:28:23 · answer #3 · answered by ccrider 7 · 0 0

The Bible says (Acts 2:38) repent of our sins, be baptized by immersion for the forgiveness of all of our sins and we will recieve the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in an unknown language to overcome our sinful behaviors. This what Jesus is talking about in St. John 3:5. Check out St. Mark 16:17. My pesonal belief is not to take the word of man, we are all fallible, unless they can back up what they with scripture. God Bless!

2007-02-18 07:53:38 · answer #4 · answered by michael m 5 · 0 0

In my Catholic faith baptism removes the stain of original sin and allows the newly baptized to become a member of Christs body.

2007-02-18 07:49:27 · answer #5 · answered by Sentinel 7 · 1 0

"For if the one party concede to the other that remission of sins takes place in all infants which are baptized, whilst the other concedes to their opponents that infants (as infant nature itself in its silence loudly proclaims) have as yet contracted no sin in their own living, then both sides must agree in conceding to us, that nothing remains but original sin, which can be remitted in baptism to infants." - St. Augustine of Hippo ("On The Merits And Forgiveness Of Sins, And The Baptism Of Infants" 4th century A.D.)

But our Lord Himself said (John 3:5): 'Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.' Consequently it became necessary to baptize children, that, as in birth they incurred damnation through Adam so in a second birth they might obtain salvation through Christ. Moreover it was fitting that children should receive Baptism, in order that being reared from childhood in things pertaining to the Christian mode of life, they may the more easily persevere therein; according to Prov. 22:5: "A young man according to his way, even when he is old, he will not depart from it." - St. Thomas Aquinas ("Summa Theologica" 13th century A.D.)

"Born with a fallen human nature and tainted by original sin, children also have need of the new birth in baptism to be freed from the power of darkness and brought into the realm of the freedom of the children of God, to which all men are called. [Cf. Council of Trent (1546): DS 1514; cf. Col 1:12-14.] The sheer gratuitousness of the grace of salvation is particularly manifest in infant baptism. The Church and the parents would deny a child the priceless grace of becoming a child of God were they not to confer baptism shortly after birth. [Cf. CIC, can. 867; CCEO, cann. 681; 686, 1.]

2007-02-18 07:50:58 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

they are both made up

2007-02-18 08:09:27 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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