Where did the Big Bang's primordial ingredients come from?

Question

You know - before the Big Bang -- when there was a perpetually uninterrupted state of "nothingness". How did the primordial ingredients behind the "Big Bang" come into being? How can nothingness spontaneously "create" ingredients to form a "Big Bang" event. In a state of nothingness, there's no such thing as particles, atoms, chemicals, and the like -- there's no such thing as "anything". The universe is an oddity in itself with no explanation for it's existence.

It is like a blame-game. The Universe is being blamed on the Big Bang, the Big Bang is being blamed on "tiny, hot, primordial ingredients". ...And my initial question still remains.

GODZILLA THE 1ST: I'm not promoting "God".

Given the nature of "nothingness", the Universe should not be, yet it is. The universe is a paradox.

Answer 1

Your question is related to the cosmological argument for a First Cause of everything:

One needs to have a formalized understanding of logic, something missing in most of what is written in this forum on the topic of God's existence. Here is a starting point:

Premise: Every event has a cause
Premise: The universe has a beginning
Premise: All beginnings involve an event

Inference: This implies that the beginning of the universe involved an event
Inference: Therefore the beginning of the universe had a cause
Conclusion: The universe had a cause

For something to have caused the universe it must have existed outside of the universe and time. That First Cause could only have been an omnipotent supernatural agent, God.

Another argument is one from design:

1. The universe began to exist
2. The universe has complexity, order and fine-tuning
3. Complexity, order and fine-tuning imply design
4. Design that began to exist implies a designer
5. Therefore, the universe has a designer

Premise 1: See Big Bang theorem (Hawking, Penrose) All matter and time itself began at this moment
Premise 2: Universe has complex designs, e.g, cellular DNA, Laws of Physics, fine-tuning for life on earth, etc.
Premise 3: Nothing ordered can come from chaos, an orderer is required. Laws of Nature are often cited, including Vuletic, as counterexamples, yet these very Laws are themselves ordered.

Premise 4: Self evident. If something did not exist, there is no beginner or designer

Thus, the universe has a designer.

Answer 2

The Big Bang "theory" is an incredibly complex scientific concept that doesn't make much sense even after reading it unless you carry a degree already. Know that in science, a "theory" is not the theory we use in everyday life. Technically, gravity is a theory, but people don't try to deny the realism of gravity.

What it comes down to is, the Big Bang Theory is currently the best answer we have for the existence and creation of the universe as we know it. If someone develops a "better" (i.e., more accepted and easier to prove) theory, then that will become the scientific norm. But, from what we have seen from the reaction of the universe, the Big Bang Theory fits very well. It just doesn't answer your question about where did the very first state come from. Sucks huh?!

I still think it's better than saying a god/goddess/gods/goddesses created everything. Because can't I ask where they came from too? It's not fair asking where the beginning of the Big Bang came without asking where god came from is it? And if you say god was always there, then why couldn't the beginning of the Big Bang be always there? Surely the less complicated of the two wouldn't need a creator would it?

Answer 3

I have asked professor after professor this question, and many high-level doctors, if they support evolution, they all basically have the same two answers. The first one is, "we don't know," and they will give various explanations which usually all lead to the second answer, especially if you really press them for an answer or a best guess. The second answer is usually the definition of "magic." I can't help it, they do it everytime. They will never flat-out say "magic" or "supernatural" but their explanation or best guesses are exactly the definition of magic.

Don't believe me? Ask the guys at NASA, or SETI, or just take your pick. It will take a while, pin them down, and see for yourself.

If they are religious, they usually give out explanations, usually simply baby-sounding junk, unless you run into the Christians. They will come up with the scientific "a Creator created it all" argument that is impossible to defeat (unless they do not know what they believe or mix it with something else).

That is where Intelligent Design comes in, because every reasonable person can clearly see that anything with design (rules, laws, structure, etc) is going to have a designer. They think that they are so intelligent in deviating from the Creator explanation, until you go through the logic of "who designed the designers" where you go all the way back to God again.

Anyone who answers the question will not be scientific because it is impossible to observe anything that far back, not even time or space was there. So all answers will be based on guesses, beliefs, or faith. Sometimes those things will in turn be founded upon what we have always observed (such as a design requires a designer), or upon something else (such as the Blue Fairy did it).

My faith is on God, He created it all, since it is like putting my faith in love. I just know Love exists, and I have faith that there is evidence for it, but I cannot put it in a jar, nor see it under a microscope. I must presume that those in support of the Big Bang theory know where the Big Crater is.

Answer 4

Very good question. The big bang is the start of the universe. It's the start of the 4 dimensions(3 dimensions of space and one dimension of time, the start of all matter and energy). What caused the big bang. If it was the "tiny, hot, primordial ingredients"
the those ingredients must have been spiritual. They could not have been physical because that would mean they were made of matter. But if they were the cause and the big bang was the effect, the cause has to be there before the effect but you couldn't have matter there before the start of matter.
The universe obeys certain rules-----laws to which all things must adhere. These laws are precise and many of them are mathematical in nature. Natural laws are hierarchical in nature; secondary laws of nature are based upon primary laws of nature, which have to be just exactly right in order for our universe to be possible. There are constants(gravitational and cosmological and others) in our universe which must be exact within infinitesmal parameters in order for life to exist(that’s called the anthropic principle). But, where did these laws and constants come from and why do they exist? If the universe were merely the accidental by-product of a big bang, then why should it obey orderly principles----or any principles at all for that matter? Since when does order come out of an explosion? Chaos comes out of an explosion not order.

Answer 5

As for something coming from nothing...you need to study quantum mechanics. If you were to look closely, very, very closely (to the order of 10^-35m), space is actually a foaming mass of quantum activity. This quantum foam is made of particles and micro-black holes popping in and out of existence, apparently in contravention of the second law of thermodynamics, they appear out of nothing with energy, then disappear again just as quickly. The key to this is the uncertainty principle.

And as for how the universe actually came into being itself, it is believed that also in the quantum foam, virtual space-time bubbles also continually pop in and out of existence, like virtual particles, only to disappear again. However, it is possible that one of these space-time bubbles, which is actually an unimaginably small universe, could avoid rapidly disappearing again and be promoted to a full size universe, such as ours.

Answer 6

Excellent question. But few decades ago, when we had no Internet, nobody dared ask it in public. Because all the professors are advocates of that miraculous theory, no students dared raised their voices to be ridiculed before their peers as ideologists and be kicked out of schools.
Now, with all truth can be freely discussed before the world public, let the evolutionists give clear answers to their students. Otherwise, they should at least rationally accept free speech and free investigation of truth for all people.
In the human history, there are always persecutors by using guns and no persecutors using books; there are burning of sacred writings and no burning of war planes; there are head hunters and no prayers for preachers of religions.

Answer 7

There is no such thing as the "big bang". God created everybody and everything.

Answer 8

Great question! Ask some of your intelligent evolutionists! I bet even they don't know. If you ask me, the word "big bang" sounds like a wicked dance. I am all for Creation and when you look around, you can see just how beautiful God made everything.

Answer 9

Skim through this:

http://talkorigins.org/faqs/astronomy/bigbang.html

edit: lol, beautiful is relative.. everything is completely absurd (complicated, if you will) if you look at it from a sober stand point

Answer 10

Thats why god was invented so you could stop thinking about stuff like this