If the shroud of turin was forged all theses points would have to be excepted as fact?

Question

1. The forger first painted the bloodstains before he painted the image.

2. The forger integrated forensic qualities to his image that would only be known 20th century science.

3. The forger duplicated blood flow patterns in perfect forensic agreement to blood flow from the wrists at 65° from vertical to suggest the exact crucifixion position of the arms.

4. The forger "painted" the blood flows with genuine group AB blood that he had "spiked" with excessive amounts of bilirubin since the forger knew that severe concussive scourging with a Roman flagrum would cause erythrocyte hemolysis and jaundice.

5. The forger "plotted" the scourge marks on the body of the "man in the shroud" to be consistent under forensic examination with two scourgers of varying height.

7. The forger, against all convention of medieval artistry, painted the body he was "hoaxing" as Jesus of Nazareth, nude to conform to genuine Roman crucifixions.

8. The forger, as the forensic genius he was, illustrated the nails of crucifixion accurately through the wrists rather than the hands as in all other conventional medieval representations. He also took into account that the thumbs of a crucified victim would rotate inward as a result of median nerve damage as the nails passed through the spaces of Destot.

9. The forger was clever enough to "salt" the linen with the pollens of plants indigenous only to the environs of Jerusalem in anticipation of 20th century palynological analysis.

11. The forger was able to paint this image with some unknown medium using an unknown technique, 30-40 feet away in order to discern the shadowy image as he continued.

12. The forger was clever enough to depict an adult with an unplaited pony-tail, sidelocks and a beard style consistent with a Jewish male of the 1st century.

13. The forger thought of such minute details as incorporating dirt from the bare feet of the "man in the shroud" consistent with the calcium carbonate soil of the environs of Jerusalem.

14. This forger was such an expert in 20th century biochemistry, medicine, forensic pathology and anatomy, botany, photography and 3-D computer analysis that he has foiled all the efforts of modern science. His unknown and historically unduplicated artistic technique surpasses all great historical artists, making the pale efforts of DaVinci, Michaelangelo, Raphael and Botticelli appear as infantile scribblings.

isn't that going a little to far there was a fire in the 15 centuary could it be possible that testing was flawed by extrinsic C14 accumulated over centuries of fungal growth, candle smoke and the intense heat of the fire of 1532?

accepted*....

also the shroud contains no paint whatsover how is that possible?

Answer 1

The owner of the shroud admitted to it's creation in Medieval times. The Bishop investigating the hoax found the artist who confessed to creating it.

The shroud contains ferric oxide suspended in gum--in other words paint.

The carbon dating corresponds with the first appearance of the shroud

The head is disproportionate to the body

The front image and back image are different lengths

The "bloodstains" in the hair lie on the surface of the hair, not matted into the hair as real blood would be

The "bloodstains" are still red, like paint, not black, as true blood would be,

The hands are crossed over the groin--a mediavel convention to preserve modesty

There is no biblical reference to the shroud--the biblical account of the crucifixian directly contradicts a shroud

No Jew would touch, let alone keep, a burial garment--such an artifact would be unclean.

The shroud image is fading--surely a divinely created shroud would not fade.

Answer 2

The Shroud of Turin is a bit too recent to be the burial shroud of Jesus of Nazareth.

"In 1988, the Vatican allowed the shroud to be dated by three independent sources--Oxford University, the University of Arizona, and the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology--and each of them dated the cloth as originating in medieval times, around 1350."

Answer 3

Nail the blind, ignorant and the fools!!!


LOL I love that first guys answer.....its the answer to EVERY fool. Oh....I don't believe your evidence even though it comes from the same science I use to prove your Bible wrong. So since I am right, no matter what your evidence is or what my scientists find, its still wrong, for I am right. And I am right cause I saw it on TV and TV doesn't lie. (rolls eyes)

Gotta love the ignorant.....the fools who think they know all and are God themselves. And I do like what the Bible says that God will do with such men. I feel sorry for them and what they have coming.

Answer 4

Did you forget that the actual image was produced by a mysterious energy source, like radiation? Like a camera? I agree with you and might add that most will refuse to look at these facts or research the facts on their own. I agree with you.

Answer 5

I do not need to read all this nonsense to deal with the fact that the shroud is a forgery. It has been dated from at least a thousand years after Jesus died, and that is all that one needs to know. Dating methods are highly reliable; they are calibrated from tree ring data back at least 5,000 years.

Answer 6

OK so God did it in the 14th century. It's a miracle but it's still forgery.

Answer 7

what are you saying?