What is with the Christian persecution complex?

Question

really if you break it down it pretty much comes to this.

"You are persecuting me by not allowing me to persecute everybody else."

i do not want to hear about what happens to Christians in Muslim countries, they would treat an Atheist or Pagan the same.
Where do you get off living in America and claiming persecution. the laws of the country are geared towards your beliefs.
so they do not sanction prayers in school and government buildings big deal, that means everybody not just you. everything else is either already geared to your religion, or legislation is in effect to make it so.

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Mel,

the country was not founded on christian beliefs, it was founded on the beliefs of freedom for everybody.

over the past 200 years the christian majority has put their beliefs into law whenever possible, so the laws reflect the christian religious moral beliefs.

removal of religion from government and publis institutions is not persecution.

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serena, you ask

I would like to see your statistics proving that 120,000 thousand atheists are martyred for their non-faith every year."

Ummm i might be wrong here, but i do not recall ever saying anything about atheist's being killed for their non belief.

as far as why i direct my questions to America, I live in America as to the people that i was addressing. and it was relevant to the context of my question. in the countries that CHristians are persecuted for their beliefs, Pagans would be given the same treatment, and much of that is not so much anti christian but anti-American. people seem unable to tell the difference sometimes.

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Rose Within,

please site locations and the relevant local LAWS that prevent people from displaying the Nativity in their own property. and likewise for the Church. court cases that upheld these laws would be adiquate. If you cannot do this then your arguement holds no water.

and the swore a man in by his religion run for the hills they RESPECTED somebody else. You make no mention of the other congressmen and senatore/judges/ and local officials that are sworn in on the Bible every day. but one Muslim if allowed his religious freedom that our constitution grants and it is persecution to you. you make my point very clear for me thank you for cementing my point.

Rose Within.

Show me a likn to a court case where somebody was told to take a nativity scene from their PRIVATE LAND.
this would indicate persecution.

You cannot display your religion on public land just as i can not display mine. this is fairness not persecution.

and you may forget. that everyone in this country except the NATIVE AMERICANS came here form forign countries. that arguement fails to hold water.

Christians are treated with more respect and have more laws working for them than any other religion in this country. but anytime that the country makes an attempt to be FAIR to somebody else you claim Persecution. YES i CALL MYSELF AN AMERICAN. My family did the scribe work on the constitution and the decleration of independence. my family fought in the civil war. my father was in Vietnam and my grandfather won the Navy Cross in WWII
I would probably be in iraq right now if it were not for a knee surgery.

my family has fought and died to defend your right to be a Bigot. and when they were fighting and dieing they were beside
Japanese/Korean/Native American/ Black/ White/Christian/Muslim/Jew/Pagan and Atheist. if there is one thing to be learned from the tragic wars of this country it is that people of all races and religions fight to protect the rights of people that HATE them.

you make me sick.

Answer 1

I've asked this exact question several times...and was told that by removing them from the schools and laws, we were discriminating against them.

They feel that supporting gay marriage is forcing that belief on them.

They feel that questioning their beliefs is a form of persecution.

I propose we send them all to Saudi Arabia for a week. They can then learn the difference between persecution and politics.

Answer 2

You are right, if they don't have the dominance over things, then they see it as persecution. If any other faith gets the spotlight for a moment, they consider that to be persecution. If they aren't allowed to push their beliefs, they consider that to be persecution.

As for sending them to Muslim countries, I've been there, and they aren't persecuted there in the way the West may imagine. They live side by side there with Muslims.

Christians should make friends with people of other religions. Let these people tell the Christians what it's really like. Let these Christians actually witness a Muslim's life, a Jew's life, a Buddhist's life, etc.

Answer 3

It's part of the classic concept. The bible said they would be persecuted...the bible is always true...thus they must be being persecuted. Lets ignore the fact that they represent the largest most powerful religion on the planet, and just concentrate on how they're persecuted.

Answer 4

jesus was persecuted (in the story at least) and much of the literature is about overcoming this adversity, so christians kind of get off on being victims and some would argue they make themselves or play the victim in emulation of the story and culture they utilize.

This leads to the christian work ethic where they think that the harder something is the better it's rewards should or would be. They look for struggle and hard times. Where the rational thought would be that doing the same work easier would be better but no the christians want to suffer and through this suffering earn thier way.

Answer 5

Not everyone lives in America,you know.Why do you assume that every Christian talking about persecution hails from the USA?
As for your comment about persecution in other countries,I would like to see your statistics proving that 120,000 thousand atheists are martyred for their non-faith every year.
Those who are in the USA,I imagine that some Christians are not feeling too great when people keep calling them 'delusional' and 'idiotic' and certain events that indicate discrimination against their faith,where others are tolerated and even celebrated.
Since I am not from the USA,I cannot guarantee that my views on discrimination there are correct.They are merely observations from news items and commentary from my overseas friends.

Answer 6

Good point and Merry Christmas and happy Easter. No Vernal Equinox celebration, No days off for the Solstices. What kind of persecution is this, it is real persecution.
You would stand a better chance of getting elected if you were a gay Muslim in America than an atheist. Even though most people in America are atheists.

Answer 7

I find that as a christian i am offended by the majority of Christians in the United states. It is true that all over the world our brothers are being slaughtered daily, because they are actually doing something, instead of wining about a permissive secular society. It is very true that we treat others like they are less than us because most of us are horribly arrogant. I have a friend that told me he was being pushed away from Christianity because of all the arrogant legalistic people inside the church. We need to get off our religious butts and do something productive for god, so that we actually have room to complain.

Answer 8

They tell us all that the highly moral, deeply religious, prayerful Buddhist is going to hell, they call his ancient religion a cult, they tell him that God ignores his prayers. They tell us that God ignores the prayers of the deeply religious Jew and that he and his entire family are going to hell just for being Jewish. They tell us that anyone who believes in evolution is a atheist. Heck, many of them even tell us that anyone who doesn't believe in talking serpents is an atheist.

Then they wonder why people challenge them here.

Yes, I know. Not all Christians say these things. But those that do are the ones that get challenged. And they are the ones that do most of the whining about being persecuted.

Answer 9

Many Christians are egotistical and see that they are right, and the only ones right when it comes to getting close to the Divine.

If they stepped back and read the Constitution, they would understand that this country is based upon Freedom of Religion....therefore, by having a prayer in school that represents a Christian framework, is against what our country stands for.

Answer 10

Christians want to divert the attention from those that are really being persecuted by them, to the christians themselves, christians are selfish ignorant people that toroture others and play the victim, just to divert the attention off of those they are hurting. Ive had pagan friends beaten nearly to death from christians, and it sickens me when they turn a blind eye and use the not a true christian excuse. The excuses are getting old.