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Nothing in any of the gospels fixes the date of Jesus' birth. The early church simply did what it was very good at, stealing and neutralizing the traditions of other religions and cults. Christians celebrate the birth of Jesus as either December 25th, the birthdate and festival of the resurrecting God-man Indo-Iranian Mithras (originally Mithra, the name changes to Mithras for numerological reasons, just as Yehoshua is Joshua in the old testament and Jesus in the new, so the Greek name has numerological significance), or January 6th, the birthdate and festival of the resurrecting Egyptian God-man Osiris-Aion, born of the virgin Isis (the Black Madonna of so many “Christian” statues).

There were festivals and celebrations at the time of the winter solstice long before there was a Christian church, for a couple of centuries at least before Jesus may have lived. The early Roman Church simply commandeered all shrines and festivals to itself. Places where pagan goddesses gave oracles became shrines of the blessed virgin Mary. Temples to Mithra or Apollo became churches, worship and festivals continued as before only the names and a little of the theology changed. What happened in the Greek and Latin worlds also happened in the Celtic, Germanic and Nordic lands. Old gods had their myths and festivals stolen and dressed up as Christian festivals. Celtic heroes became rewritten as Christian Saints. For the most part the people as a whole didn't seem to mind too much. There were still bonfires, feasts, gift-giving and excuses to get drunk. The change from pagan to Christian simply meant business as usual, slightly fewer orgies but just as much tax and as many idle priests as ever. Many old traditions and superstitions lived on and were Christianized. The people were still as irrational and superstitious as ever.

The Christmas that we celebrate today is a mix of old pagan traditions such as evergreen decorations and feasting coupled with an often neglected Christian gloss and overlaid with more modern secular humanist and consumerist traditions.

2007-02-17 07:39:40 · 9 answers · asked by Jason Bourne 5 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Speak for yourself. As a Christian, I cannot and do not celebrate Christmas and other pagan customs brought into Christianity by the early Church at Rome.

Admittedly, I'm in the minority.

2007-02-17 07:49:51 · answer #1 · answered by flandargo 5 · 0 1

Christmas is nice, but I'm really happy that Jesus Christ died a sacrificial death that I might have salvation : )

I was trying to guess what your outlook would be. I was thinking maybe you would compare Christ to Krishna, but you chose Mithra instead. I guess some of your other fellas will come on later with Zeus, Julius Caesar, Odin, Nimrod, etc. later on.

Question: Are you happy that your post has appeared like a thousand times before and it probably copied from your favorite atheist website?

Question: Do you know that a Christian true knowledge of Jesus Christ is experential? Do you think that putting lights on a tree in any way affects a person's joy in Jesus Christ?

Fact: The atheism that you celebrate today is a mix of old atheist traditions double-dipped in pseudo-intellectualism and sprinkled with nuts.

2007-02-17 16:06:28 · answer #2 · answered by ignoramus_the_great 7 · 1 0

I am of Celtic descent they are mine. Irish, English and Swede. I think I can claim most of the Christian Holidays. The celebration is now in the name of God so the origin does not matter much.

Why do you celebrate any. Nothing is holy to an Atheist? Why don't you get a Life and don't worry so much. You sound like those watchtower folks.

2007-02-17 16:04:27 · answer #3 · answered by ? 6 · 2 0

Christians could care less about how their traditions may or may not have been taken from others. They are happy believing in what they believe, and that's all that matters. If someone has a strong enough faith to believe in something that cannot be seen by the naked eye - good for them, some may call it a gift that they can do that, others may call them foolish.

Nothing is original, one thing came from another, and another from that. Instead of asking the Christians "Are you happy that many of your traditions are taken from others?" You could ask the world "Are you happy that many of your traditions/idea/philosophies are taken from others?" The user name you use was not created by you - it's a character. Don't ask a group if they are content with their traditions that may or may not have been discovered by them. Are you happy that the name you chose to represent yourself is a character? No, you don't have to answer.

2007-02-17 16:00:21 · answer #4 · answered by aSchway 3 · 2 0

Every religion comes from oter religions. Hinduism believes in a trinity of Braham, Shiva, and Khrishna. Their religion existed before Christianity, who copied who? Also, zorostianism believes in an entitity that Christians will call the anti-christ. A man battling for humanity and he is evil sent by the devil. I'm Christian but that doesn't mean I'm ignorant and I know the truth.

2007-02-17 16:36:59 · answer #5 · answered by cynical 6 · 0 0

When Adam and Eve were casr out of the Garden, they could commune with God through sacrifices and rituals on certain days. I am sure that Adam passed these on to his children and so on. Over the years the dates remained the same, and the traditions were twisted from their original meaning to worship the creation, and not the Creator as they were originally intended!!

2007-02-17 15:49:55 · answer #6 · answered by michael m 5 · 0 0

Churchianity is a heathen religion. True faith worships YHVH and His Savior YAHOSHUA on their special day "Saturday". There is no other name by which a person can be saved!

2007-02-17 15:46:33 · answer #7 · answered by hasse_john 7 · 0 0

its ok i guess and yeah we do have somethings that r similar from other places and stuff but who and what we believe in is totally different it changes everything

2007-02-17 15:44:36 · answer #8 · answered by aj 2 · 0 0

yea, i totally agree. but i dont htink christians really care about where their stuff came from. they are the MAJORITY! psh. old testimates better

2007-02-17 15:44:18 · answer #9 · answered by Hannah 2 · 0 1

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