Considering the history of the USA & menial labor why do we feel threatened that illegals are taking our jobs?

Question

I tried to post this quesion last night & it never showed up but was deleted as a "violation." Let's see if I can rephrase it to make it more palatable. It's a valid quesion and I would love to hear some valid answers.
Ok, all of us are immigrants here unless we are 100% Native American yet I hear a lot of us complaining that the illegals are coming here & taking our jobs. If we truly stop & consider our own past I think we would realize it's just not true. History shows that the White immigrants came here, many without passports, visas & completely undocument & killed the Native Americans for their land. Once they acquired the land they decided they didn't want to work it themselves so they went to Africa to get slaves to work the land for them. They didn't want to do that menial labor. I would like to mention also that the people that were abducted to work as slaves arrived here completely undocumented with no background checks & no health checks. continued.....

Most of the jobs the illegals are working today are in these same fields of agriculture (picking vegetables) or landscaping that we originally brought slaves to do. We have a proven track record that we don't want to do these jobs ourselves. So why are we complaining now about illegals taking our jobs?

Answer 1

Here! Here! This is very true!

Native people and Latino people were here before settlers. Much of what we consider the U.S. today was inhabited by tribes Native to what we now call Mexico. An government created border does not change this.

And the history of how many settlers came here is brutal and greedy as you suggest. But many won't recognize this and come up with false suggestions so they don't have to consider the truth. Such as the VERY FALSE land bridge theory.

And you are also right that many of the jobs that immigrants perform are jobs that the majority population would NEVER even consider performing even if they were broke as a joke.

So, there is no real argument to suggest that people are taking over the jobs in the America. And saying this implies that the jobs belong to someone in the first place and they don't!

Great question/comment!!!!!

Answer 2

The problem winds up the day to the point of frustration. The answer waits to be reality. The purpose is identified as the overloaded system strains to stay upright. The war in Iraq has 2.5 million refugees seeking sanctuary. Where in this issue do we as citizens become a part of the answered? The flood gates of the world have been opened by intention and non intention. Do we change the purpose of the Statue of Liberty? When do the citizens say, enough is enough and who will lead the parade of the majority that seeks an answer to the dilemma. Talk is cheap and answers are cheaper.
What is the real reason for all of these reasons to move over and let the new people in town become the next middle class that will become the newly classified Americans? What will our status be in ten years? How many more wars can be fought and then have the people of that war torn country become the next to move in and become Americans?
It doesn’t stop for we are the land of the free. Illegal or legal a pattern that may be with all of us for some time to come. The new arrivals need a job and the jobs are becoming far and in between so keep your job.
So learn through experience and adjust by example and make your home into a legal haven that justifies the new America that has been born for all of its citizens to live with the right to be free.
Now you know the logistics of change that has been forced on all people’s that were born here or came here before yourself. This is the nuts and bolts of the history of immigration in the good ole USA

Answer 3

We have ALWAYS had people who are citizens ready and willing and fighting to do these jobs. From the first poor Irish on up or down the line. America was built on "menial labor". Do you think this land was settled by totally 100% rich and totally educated people?

You need to research your history. The south had slaves. The North didn't.. neither did the West. And not ALL the south did. Slaves were bought by RICH people....not the average person. Not ALL slaves were mistreated and abused either.

My ancestors came and they didn't have slaves....they had KIDS to do the menial labor.

I swear....they have really distorted our own proud history...warts and all, for this sick agenda.

You people wouldn't know your butt from a hole in the ground. You talk of BS obviously taught under the NWO agenda. I have actual GENERATIONS of documented PROOF that your belief isn't true. Real history...warts and all.

I could tell you stories that would make your empty head spin. Not made-up stories......real stories. I am fed-up...sick ....about jerks like you.


Keep on "protesting and you'll protest yourselves right out of a job".......then you gonna be so "understanding" about the next wave of people who will rob your work right out from under you? You still gonna be able to afford your 250,000 home on 60 cents an hour? Pay off your new Bank of America cards? God these "new" idiots don't have a friggin clue!!!!!!

Answer 4

Probably because the majority of them don't speak English. Believe it or not, it's true. Ask the people on this forum if they would accept immigrants if they spoke English and I guarantee you 9 out of 10 would. Previous immigrants would be absolutely sure that their children learned to speak English; examples are everywhere. Anecdotally, there was a child who spoke to his sister in Spanish; his father later beat him and explained that he could do that in his home but not outside; the poster of this report said he never heard the kid speak Spanish again. The problem is most immigrants simply don't learn to speak the language because they aren't putting enough effort into doing so. If previous immigrants could do it, why are the Latin Americans having such a problem with it? You could argue the reasons all day, but the point is that it all comes down to language. Nationalism is BUILT upon it and ever since 9/11 America has become relatively nationalist in its approach to issues and subjects.

Answer 5

It's not that 'illegals' are taking your job, it's that they're setting up shop in our country, period, and frankly people are disheartened that it took SO long to see any kind of real emphasis placed on doing anything about it, even so much as honestly describing the scale and scope of the situation. Only grudgingly, and after a lot of people in a lot of different states stood up and said 'there is a problem, here', did legislation finally move forward to try and address it.

But, the situation's improving, more and more states are being more pro-active about the issue, hopefully it all ends up being something workable.

The country that's most represented by illegal aliens in the US is, well, yes, you guessed it, Mexico. And, when you say Mexico, you have to say 'dysfunction', because that's their biggest obstacle, has been for years. Slowly, though, things seem to be improving for Mexico, and that's long-overdue.

You shouldn't take a hateful attitude on this one, people are trying to make a buck, and you can't condemn em for that. But, it IS objectionable when there's double standards in terms of labor practices enforcement and so forth, and lax immigration enforcement's just one symptom of a lot of things that people view as having gone pretty wrong these last several years.
It'll all come out in the wash, the 'happy ending' is more people in countries like Mexico starting up new companies, because locally sustainable, semi-independent economies seem to be pretty darn stable, where all the 'globalization' voodoo pretty much needs a ground-up re-do...re-do that voodoo that you do, so well... LOL

Answer 6

First of all, Americans did not "go to Africa" to get slaves. They were rounded up by their own countrymen, brought to the ports and sold to Dutch traders that shipped them around the world.
That does not make it any less wrong for the USA to have done this, but...there were OTHERS involved in the slave trading....Africans themselves were major players.
And this happened well before any of us or our immediate ancestors were born....so DO NOT hold it against any one country or race of people today.
Secondly...illegal aliens work in MANY FIELDS of work...not just agriculture and picking fruit...construction is a major source of employment, which IS in direct competition with LEGAL citizens...There are MILLIONS of illegal aliens in the U.S. and only a SMALL percentage of them are actually "working the land", as you call it, which by the way, millions of American citizens also do. Americans work in EVERY FIELD of work that illegals do, janitors, housekeepers, truck drivers, field workers, construction workers, etc. etc. etc.

Answer 7

They dont all work in agriculture. They are everywhere. Get out of the past and live in the present. They raided the factory I work at and took 68 out. Now those jobs are filled with people who were having trouble getting hired. The illegals were paid the same as everyone else. So the argument that they are cheap labor is not always true. The laws are in place and should be followed.

Answer 8

I find your lack of U.S. history rather sad seeing that you put alot of effort into such an ignorant based question.

It's not the fact that we want to do the labor jobs as Americans or not. Each person chooses his own level of lifestyle he wants to obtain to.
The issue is why do you have to be illegal in the first place. Everyones seems to forget that fact. The number of illegal immigrants out weighs the amount of jobs. So you end up with thousands of illegals putting a strain on our social system.
I'm sorry the economic conditions in Mexico are so bad that the citizens are forced to look to other Countries to better themselves. But we are paying the price because no one wants to put limits on the amount of immigrants or the time they are allowed to stay.
I'm not saying the system is perfect. Obviously it is flawed, but just letting everyone come in is not the answer.

Answer 9

i study all the solutions...and incredibly lots accept as true with anybody on one element or yet another. I do think of immigrants are taking jobs that we dont desire to do. the place i lived for a million 3 hundred and sixty 5 days with my husband....Montana in a small city......there become countless illegals and that they might stay in a 2 mattress room trailer outdoors of city with 15 human beings in them. countless those the place i lived did no longer desire to be in the U. S. consistently they have been saving all their money to bypass living house. by using fact they could be prosperous with little or no right here (im no longer conversing in vacationer city the two)....i dont like that actuality that for the duration of 2019 whites are going to be the minority. i dont like that we are allowing maximum of into our u . s . a . criminal or unlawful. yet we do desire worker's like them right here....doing the jobs no person else is...and protecting expenditures low...yet what's the super deal once I employer is proud that they save all their artwork in North usa....however the are having unlawful immigrants working for them...comparable element in my eyes

Answer 10

I totally agree how can people complain about immigrants stealing their jobs? If you got the sack and replaced by someone undocumented than they were either more qualified or you really really suck at what you do. If people were as great at their jobs as they think they are then they wouldn't be so expendable.