Already asked but i want to add more detail. Thank for your answers.
It has been said God is soverign overall: I have 3 points to make: 1) God intends for the human race to flourish and bring us the best 2) God is soverign overall 3) If God intends the best for us, and God is soverign overall, then at the end of the day when the curtain falls God will win. How can God truly have won if there are people in hell? Don't you agree at the end of it all God will have what he wants, and I'm sure what he wants is to be soverign overall. For him to be SOVERIGN OVER (not some) but ALL, people can't remain in hell at the end. Also how can we be happy in heaven if our loved ones are in hell, and if we lose our memories in heaven then why is christianity all about relationships and loving the ones on earth? It would be cruel to kill our relationships with our loved ones. God made us for relationships. Is there redemption in hell?
Let me finish writing everything please, thank you for your time.
2007-02-16
18:35:31
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What about someone who was born before Christ? Would they go to heaven or hell?
If God was a just God, lets say Hitler killed 100,000 people and for every person he killed he must suffer 10,000 years in hell. That is a lot of years but on the line of eternality it is just a speck and a dot. How can a Just God give eternal punishment for finite sin?
Another point is, I am merely a man, can i resist God forever? I mean can i resist God for eternality? What if we changed in hell or became Good and we paid the price for our sins. Will we still be in hell even if we accepted god? God is soverign overall. I believe when everything is over, God will beat lucifer and for God to truly be soverign over him. He must save all in hell or else he is never truly soverign overall. I think lucifer knows at the end he will lose. He did it for a moments gain, evil is all about doing things for a moments gain. Good always wins in the end. Such as a druggy knows he can't do drugs forever. Lemme finish plz
2007-02-16
18:37:34 ·
update #1
If hell was a choice made by me by not accepting God, I will use a metaphor. Lets say my kid is a in trouble and i can standby and watch him destory his life or i can step in and save him by taking away his freedom would i do it? I love my kids and I can't just stand by and watch them abuse drugs and other stuff. I would take away their freedom and send them to a drug rehibilation center even if it was against their free will. God is love, do you think God would stand by and let the people he loves destory themselves forever in hell? I'd take away my sons freedom before i let him destory his life and i'm sure God would take away my free will instead of letting me destory myself forever. Nothing can be worst than hell even if it means losing free will. I believe God loves me to much to let me destory myself.
For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all shall be made alive" (I Corinthians 15:22).
My big question is, How can god be soverign over all if people are in hell and suffering.
2007-02-16
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update #2
If you spend your entire life telling God you want nothing to do with Him, then why would he force Himself or you to spend eternity together?
Hell is permanent. God is still sovereign over all, to include Hell.
2007-02-16 18:41:31
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answered by Last Ent Wife (RCIA) 7
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The Lord has power over everything. However He lets people have free agency to do what they want to. As a result some people (like Hitler and other murders) will be in agony because of their guilt for the rest of eternity. There are consequences to our actions here on earth that continue on to eternity. Some sins are forgivable and others are not. As for having our loved ones go through hell- we just will have to deal with that if it happens. We do not lose our memories in heaven. Another thing is that there is a lot about our life in the eternities that is just too wonderful to comprehend so don't get too hung up on it. Okay?
All people born before or after Jesus Christ are given the gift of the Atonement. There are a lot less people that will ever go to hell than most religions believe.
We were told before this world began that we would be responsible for all of our earthly actions. There will be a day of reckoning when everyone in the world will face the Lord and be judged of our actions. Only people commit dire sins will be in hell for all eternity. If we repent of our sins we will no longer be held accountable for them because of Jesus Christ's Atonement.
God will not force anyone to do anything. That was Satan's plan.
God won't make anyone do anything that they don't want to do- it's called free agency. You just need to do whatever you can to help others around you do the right things- like being a good example. My recommendation is to talk the missionaries from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to answer your questions about life after death and read the Book of Mormon. It's helped me with my questions.
2007-02-16 18:53:32
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answer #2
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answered by CurledWolf 3
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First it is important to know that God is soverign over all. Satan is not equal to God, Satan is a fallen angel from Heaven who aspired to be equal or above God, for which he was cast down.
God gave a set of rules for life, they are called the 10 commandments. Before Jesus died on the cross and paid the price for our sins, the law was all their was.
God is absolute. He is not changing. He is a constant and does not sway back and forth. Because of this he made it real simple, he said if you break the law you will be punished. He gave freedom of choice, He would love to see everyone follow Him and be in Heaven. That would give Him great joy. He does not force Himself on anyone. If you choose to not follow Him recieve His blessing and enter into the kingdom of Heaven, that is your choice.
We are instructed to love God above all else, our family is second. Our family here are gifts from Him and belong to Him not us.
You mentioned that if you paid the price in Hell would you then get to go to Heaven???? The answer is no... You are not able to pay the price, only Jesus could pay the ultimate price. That is why repentance is not enough. Think of it like this. If you were going to jail for robbery, you tell the judge you are sorry, that you know what you did was wrong and you would never do it again. Do you think you would still go to jail? The judge would say, I am glad you know the wrong of what you did, but you are guilty and the law says you must go to jail. You broke the law. (You break the law of God with sin) But then lets say the judge says well, if you really mean it, and can pay a fine of 1 million dollars, I will believe you and let you go. But you do not have any way to get 1 million dollars.... Then a stanger comes in and says I will pay that fine, I believe him. That is what Jesus already did for you!
What I do not understand is if you know the law of God, believe He sent his only son to pay your fine in advance, and said all you have to do is accept that He died on the cross for your sins, accept Him as your saviour, repent and turn away from sin, your fine is already paid... why would you worry about getting out of Hell? You would already be saved and forgiven and have a mansion in Heaven. If you love Him above all others then He is your goal and your loved ones are your work here on earth, help them understand so you will be able to see them again in Heaven. You goal is not who you will see from here in Heaven, your goal is get to Heaven to be with the Creator, God, and to help all those you can here to get there as well. Be a shining example of what Gods love is and others will want to know what you have that they do not. I have been ask why I am so happy, or smiling, its simple, God! Be as much like Jesus as you possibly can and recognise when you fall short and ask for forgiveness and guidance. He will not forsake you, knock and the door will be opened...
2007-02-16 19:10:31
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answered by mitika130 3
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seems to me ur kind of in a fight with God himself...i sure hope u dont plan on winning it with ur lil opinions and thoughts...what a loss that wud be...also...try not to get too swept up in urself because its not about u or ur loved ones AT ALL...as a matter of fact u shud b happy ur even ALIVE...u s hud b thanking the Lord for His kindness and i know and u know He is there and He is reading this ......... hell is not God's lost battle are u kidding me? when did God ever lose? give me a break He saw this before any of it happened..why do u think He made Jesus of all things? He beat satan before satan was ever created as a beautiful angel named lucifer....you will forget about the ones who didnt believe in God because they are evil, you will remember no evil when u go to Heaven because u werent supposed to know about it in the first place...and u never will again....that is the way it is...it isnt cruel and the truth IS offensive ...as sad as it makes u to think...it is their fault...poor God..thats what i think my poor God, how aweful has His creation been to Him for years and years..its sickening and all we can still do is think about ourselves...you should be ashamed of yourself
2007-02-16 18:47:34
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answered by Amber B 1
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"as sad as it makes u to think...it is their fault...poor God..thats what i think my poor God, how aweful has His creation been to Him for years and years..its sickening and all we can still do is think about ourselves...you should be ashamed of yourself"
You gotta be f'in kidding me. Poor God? Ummmm God killed millions of people in the Bible, including: EVERYONE except those on Noah's ark, including but not limited to babies and puppies. The first born sons of the Egyptians (read: more babies), Aaron's kids for burning incense at the wrong time (but for Hitler God doesn't intervene?) OH yeah pooooooor God.
Sigh
People Killed by God: 1,000,000+
Gods killed by people: 0
Do the math.
2007-02-16 19:02:00
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answered by Anonymous
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God intended for man/woman to live for ever with Him, because He made man in His (God's) image after His (God's) likeness. When Adam sold out to Satan through disobedience to what God said that broke the fellowship with His creator, and mankind were born sinners from that time on, Until God brought Jesus Christ into the world through a sinless vessel (a virgin) to show how we are supposed to be like an live like. Then Jesus died on the cross to redeem us back from Satan. That is why when we admit we are a sinner and repent ( be willing to turn from sinning) receive Jesus as our saviour and live and do what He says, we will not go to hell. Hell was made for Lucifer (satan, the devil ) and his angels, not for man/woman. God is sovereign But He will not go against His own word. Also He is merciful and dose not want any to perish. When Adam/Eve was created they were made perfect, when sin entered in there became a void or emptiness in us, as we were created to worship God, when we receive Jesus the void is filled. God is merciful, even if people called on the name of God as they were dying He would save them, however some people cursed God and therefore will be cast into hell. Let me put it into a natural example just for illustration purposes....Say you made a table and it was beautiful, but all of a sudden that table said I don't want people plopping things on me all the time, spilling and making messes on me, so I am going to just dump everything off or even break one of my legs to get rid of all that stuff. Well you would try to finish the table with a better surface so things would stick or you would keep trying to fix the legs. After a while you would give up and say forget it and out to the trash it would go. I know this is a strange parable but that table was created to do what it was supposed to do, and we were created to do what God wanted us to do. He wanted us to establish His Kingdom here on this planet earth, and is trying everything to help us to do it. Now He created man/woman with free will, because if He hadn't of we would be under a dictatorship ruler like Hitler was. If people choose to not believe in Jesus then they have already chose their destiny. The Bible says they are blinded by the god of this world (who is Satan) His plan is to deceive and take people where his destiny is which eventually is the lake of fire.
It is difficult to explain all of God's plan in this little email, But I believe you are searching for the truth and Jesus is the truth, the way and the life. You have been asking people to help you to understand and God is using us to to help you so He is answering you now with a wee bit of information that I have written here. If you want to know more go to a church where they are preaching Jesus Christ , Him crucified, buried and rose from the dead for us.
2007-02-16 19:28:15
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answered by Anonymous
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“Death,” the great final enemy of man, is finally removed from the scene. No longer will it be said, “In Adam all die” (see 1 Cor. 15:22). Death is personified in this case, for it is man’s great enemy. In the Old Testament we read: “I will ransom them from the power of the grave; I will redeem them from death: O death, I will be thy plagues; O grave, I will be thy destruction: repentance shall be hid from mine eyes” (Hos. 13:14).
And Paul writes: “The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death…. O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?” (1 Cor. 15:26, 55).
“Hades,” the prison of lost souls, is likewise cast into the lake of fire. The lost are no longer in hades but in the lake of fire. This is where Satan, the wild Beast, the False Prophet, and their minions were consigned. If man will not accept the life of God, he must accept the only other alternative: eternal association with Satan. God never created man to be put in this place, but there is no other place for him. Hell was created for the Devil and his angels. I take it that it is a place where God never goes. The second death means eternal and absolute separation from God
Finally, the lake of fire is eternal, for it is the second death, and there is no third resurrection. It is eternal separation from God, and there is nothing as fearful and frightful as that.
And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire [Rev. 20:14–15].
Sheol or hades (translated hell in the New Testament) is the place of the unseen dead and is divided into two compartments: paradise and the place of torment (see Luke 16:19–31). Paradise was emptied when Christ took the Old Testament believers with Him at His ascension. “Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men. (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things)” (Eph. 4:8–10). Christ did two things: He gave gifts to men down here, but He also took with Him to heaven those Old Testament saints who had died and were in the place called paradise. But the place of torment will deliver up the lost at the judgment at the Great White Throne. All who stand at this judgment are lost, and we are told that they are cast into the lake of fire, which is the second death. The Lord also called it “outer darkness.” We believe that this is symbolic of something worse than literal fire or outer darkness. It is eternal separation from God, for death means separation.
Will we know our loved ones in heaven? Do you think we may be able to visit with each other there?
Yes; categorically and dogmatically, yes! I remember someone asked the late Dr. G. Campbell Morgan, “Do you think we’ll know our loved ones when we get to heaven?” He said, “I certainly do. I know my loved ones here and I think I’m going to know them over there. I do not expect to be a bigger fool there than I am here!” And I consider that a good answer. Certainly we’re going to know our loved ones. The Word of God tells us that we’re going to know even as we are known, which is going to make it rather intimate, by the way.
In Matthew 17 we read of Peter, James, and John who had never before seen Moses and Elijah, but the Lord Jesus didn’t have to introduce them on the Mount of Transfiguration. They knew it was Moses and Elijah. And I am sure in heaven that we’re all going to know each other and maybe know each other a little bit better than we know each other down here. So we’ll certainly know our loved ones.
McGee, J. V. 2001, c1990. Questions and answers (electronic ed.) . Thomas Nelson Publishers: Nashville
2007-02-16 20:19:31
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answered by LAIDBACKROB 1
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your thinking way to deep on this Bro
first of all try to imagine a GOD capable of creating everything around you including you. then try to imagine you understanding everything he does when you aren't even capable of understanding all that he created. So lighten up accept what he told you to do and get on with it.
kind of like a child you tell to do something but have to lower your explanation to a level he can understand.
2007-02-16 18:47:41
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answered by Dave 3
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When you are in Hell you are suffering and feel lost and where there is no hope basically bleak. So I dont think you would be able to repent i mean seriously your in Hell.
2007-02-16 18:43:43
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answered by SQ 2
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Why do people go to Hell?
watch this
http://givemeananswer.org/main/frames/videoframe.html
But most importantly read The Holy Bible.
GOD Bless!
2007-02-16 18:43:10
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answered by ? 4
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