Is there such a thing as a true atheist, one that can prove that GOD does not exist backed up with facts?

Question

When christians post a question contrary to their believes, they mock us and say we are mindless. Then on the other hand they think their stances are responsible and educated. Aren't we all just stating our own believes, who is the hyprocrite? Last I checked they can't prove that GOD does not exist, they just believe He doesn't.

Answer 1

nope, sorry.

Answer 2

It is not about "proof." You are an atheist with regards to the Greek pantheon--yet you are so with no proof whatsoever that those gods do not exist. The fact is that it is impossible to prove the non-existence of something; it is perfectly logical to assume, however, that if something has absolutely no evidence for its existence, it doesn't exist.

According to the logic of your question, you realize, there is also no such thing as a "true theist"--no one can prove a god exists.

Answer 3

One doesn't have to prove it one way or the other. It's only required for evangelistic reasons. You either beleive or you don't. It's that simple.

Now, if you want to CONVINCE others (be an evagenlist and promote your belief system or religion) then you do have to present arguments as Richard Dawkins tries to, because he's an evangelist who is setting up a non profit, tax exempt organzation that will solicit donations to promote his way of thinking.

But that is not a pre-requist for being an atheist or theist. It is simply the act of believing or not believing.

Answer 4

Everyone wants to argue about existence of God or His nonexistence. No one cares to stop and specify: what God? What do you understand or see as God? There are many theories, ideas, and religions out there. For me they all are paths to making us understand that God is a Law of Nature, a Universal Intelligence, a Principle by which we all were created. All that people need to understand that sometimes concept of God is simply used to explain the unexplainable. We can sense that some things are out there, but cannot percieve them with our five senses.
God is an unknown factor, a mystery, part of which we were able to see and solve, and the rest are trying to figure out. The laws cannot be rejected, they can be discovered and proved. And before all the laws are discovered, and everything is measured with the modern day technology, many phenomenons will remain in the mysterious status and will be explained by the unlimited power of God.
And maybe it’s not such a bad thing; it's an eternal source for wondering. "The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead: his eyes are closed." (Einstein) It’s Ok to think that there is something bigger than what our eyes can see and our minds can perceive. It helps keeping our minds open to all kind of possibilities. “The important thing is not to stop questioning.” (Einstein)

Answer 5

Research continues to advance towards fully understanding how life evolved on this planet. Check out this article at National Geographic: http://www7.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0611/feature4/
Perhaps god was responsible for making the proteins found in both us and choanoflagellates. But if he were, that would make Adam a single celled organism and since Adam supposedly arrived AFTER the beasts were plopped onto the planet, this would tend to throw the whole Genesis/creation theory out the window......

Answer 6

My question goes to why it is that people confuse the verb "believe" with the noun "belief."

As to your question, I've been observing the theist/atheist debate for some time now, and can only say that it's very clear that both sides enjoy the righteous indignation afforded by having taken a firm stand on either side of an unverifiable argument.

Answer 7

Being a "true" atheist isn't ABOUT disproving anything. You're arguing a strawman.

Of COURSE I can't prove that Yahweh doesn't exist. I never said I could. I can show that the concept of a god is an impossible one, that it's hopelessly self-contradictory and basically no more than a sound we make without any coherent definition behind it, but I can't PROVE conclusively that Yahweh, your god, doesn't exist... just like you can't prove Quetzalcoatl doesn't exist.

Answer 8

A true atheist is not what you think it is. A true atheist does not believe in God and that's all. There is no proof for any religion or belief, but there is more evidence to support atheism than there is to support theism. There's also less sensible arguments against it. I'd like to see anyone prove that their belief is true, whether God is real or not.

Answer 9

A true atheist need not prove that god does not exist. A true atheist only needs not to have any beliefs in any god(s).

By your strange definition, do true christians need to prove their god's existence by facts? Is that why many christians claim there are no "true" christians?

Answer 10

NO ANSWER
Have you not heard of that madman who lit a lantern in the bright morning hours, ran to the market-place, and cried incessantly: "I am looking for God! I am looking for God!"
As many of those who did not believe in God were standing together there, he excited considerable laughter. Have you lost him, then? said one. Did he lose his way like a child? said another. Or is he hiding? Is he afraid of us? Has he gone on a voyage? or emigrated? Thus they shouted and laughed. The madman sprang into their midst and pierced them with his glances.

"Where has God gone?" he cried. "I shall tell you. We have killed him - you and I. We are his murderers. But how have we done this? How were we able to drink up the sea? Who gave us the sponge to wipe away the entire horizon? What did we do when we unchained the earth from its sun? Whither is it moving now? Whither are we moving now? Away from all suns? Are we not perpetually falling? Backward, sideward, forward, in all directions? Is there any up or down left? Are we not straying as through an infinite nothing? Do we not feel the breath of empty space? Has it not become colder? Is it not more and more night coming on all the time? Must not lanterns be lit in the morning? Do we not hear anything yet of the noise of the gravediggers who are burying God? Do we not smell anything yet of God's decomposition? Gods too decompose. God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. How shall we, murderers of all murderers, console ourselves? That which was the holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet possessed has bled to death under our knives. Who will wipe this blood off us? With what water could we purify ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we need to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we not ourselves become gods simply to be worthy of it? There has never been a greater deed; and whosoever shall be born after us - for the sake of this deed he shall be part of a higher history than all history hitherto."

Here the madman fell silent and again regarded his listeners; and they too were silent and stared at him in astonishment. At last he threw his lantern to the ground, and it broke and went out. "I have come too early," he said then; "my time has not come yet. The tremendous event is still on its way, still travelling - it has not yet reached the ears of men. Lightning and thunder require time, the light of the stars requires time, deeds require time even after they are done, before they can be seen and heard. This deed is still more distant from them than the distant stars - and yet they have done it themselves."

It has been further related that on that same day the madman entered divers churches and there sang a requiem. Led out and quietened, he is said to have retorted each time: "what are these churches now if they are not the tombs and sepulchres of God?"

Answer 11

An atheist, along with a true atheist, is just one who doesn't believe in any gods. He doesn't have to prove it.

As a Christian myself, I understand what you're saying, llike with how people believe in the Big Bang, but there really isn't any proof. But both sides are equally hypocritical.