An extension on the Jews demanding Jesus's death?

Question

This is an extension based on the answers I got before on the verse Matt 27:25 "His blood be on us and on our children."

1. Stoning took place all the time in Jesus' time. It's in the NT. Saying that the Jews couldn't stone Jesus is paradoxical at best.

2. Jesus' supposed crime was supposed to be blasphemy against God. It was not a political crime - hence Pilate shouldn't have even been involved. So, which was it - a relgious or a political crime?

3. There were other Messiah figures at the time put to death by being nailed to the cross. The Romans had no problem with this. Pilate thought he was innocent. Hence - there was no political crime so he wouldn't have been crucified.

4. Saying that the reason they didn't stone him because it wouldn't have fulfilled prophecy is pretty bad. Christians pride themselves on being historically accurate - that the bible can be 'proved'.

I actually want answers - I'm not askings to attakc Christians, etc.

Answer 1

You say you want answers. OK. The Romans killed Jesus. The Jews could not and did not. Crucifixion is totally foreign to any Jewish idea.

But the legend that accuses Jews of doing what they could not ever have done is very useful to stir up the primitive mobs and cause them to wreak pogroms.

Today even the Catholic Church has backed down from that blood libel.

Answer 2

Death by Jewish standards was to be stoned to death. Pilate asked which group who should condemned him, and the Romans did. The Romans are the ones who crucified people, and yes, they decided that it was a political crime, so he was crucified according to Roman law, even though Pilate tried to get them to not condemn him. The charge was that he was creating political upheaval in the community.

Luke alone emphasizes the political nature of the charges against Jesus: "We found this man misleading our people; he opposes the payment of taxes to Caesar and maintains that he is the Messiah a king" (23:2). Later they repeat the charges: "He is inciting the people with his teaching throughout all Judea, from Galilee where he began even to here" (23:5).

In fact, John 18:3 says that Roman soldiers took part in the initial arrest of Jesus, suggesting that the Romans were involved in the matter from the very beginning. Their military commanders normally kept a close watch on the city, especially during festivals.

Answer 3

In the Bible whenever the Saducees, Pharisees, Scribes tried to accuse Jesus of blasphemy they always lost the mini-debates that ensued. They did not want to look bad in the eyes of the public. They couldn't simply kill him without reason. They wanted the approval of the crowd.

It makes perfect sense that Jesus was captured during the night, when there was no public around. The religious leaders wanted to make it look like Jesus was sentenced by the Roman State, not themselves. He was given a trial, in which he did not even defend himself. Pilate did not see Jesus as a political criminal and he literally washed his hands of the judgement, which he obligatory gave in to the leaders demands (call it politics). Remember, Pilate also insisted that Jesus bared the sign on his cross, "King of the Jews." Again despite the crucifixion, Pilate did not see it as a political crime and wanted the Jews to handle their own affairs.

Answer 4

If you read the entire passage, you will see Pilate didn't want to kill Jesus. That is why he said in Matt: 27:24 Pilate saw that he wasn’t getting anywhere and that a riot was developing. So he sent for a bowl of water and washed his hands before the crowd, saying, “I am innocent of this man’s blood. The responsibility is yours!”

The response of the Jews: Matt. 27:25 And all the people yelled back, “We will take responsibility for his death—we and our children!”[a]

This was a religious crime, not political.

You are getting side-tracked with the Jews "killing" him. Or the Romans, who actually did it.

Jesus died for you and me. He came here (earth) to live for us...and he died on the cross for us...for our sins. He was the blood sacrifice.

Answer 5

You are correct in that the whole crucifixion story does not make sense for its time and place. The manner in which the Jesus was supposedly treated on the cross (especially the coup de grace of the spear thrust through the diaphragm) also doesn't fit with contemporary accounts and the belief that his friend was allowed to take down the body immediately and bury it in a tomb is totally contrary to how the Romans would have acted since the whole point of crucifixion was to have an example hanging there for days.

Basically it points to a story which was modified to suit the political purposes of the person telling it. This is why the descriptions of the trial and crucifixion differ among the gospels.

Answer 6

1. Defiantly they could have but first it was not Gods plan (i know thats hard to just take but put it in the back of your head) second it was just as normal to go to the law of the land at the time (read others responses) and look at the Bible third why WOULDNT they go to the government for doing the dirty work???
2. Defiantly political AND religious - he gave them the choice out of custom and they choose
3. Of course he shouldnt have been crucified BUT that was GODS plan for centuries, and it was a huge crowd and they all wanted it why NOT?????
4. They didnt stone him because in that time period it was NORMAL to go to the government to do the killing stuff... look at what i said before

Keep reading the Bible, and never stop till you get the right answer and you are at peace. You will be at peace through Jesus Christ : )

Answer 7

I view no crime has been delt.
God intended it to happen, our paths split on such a miniscule point, that I view you as another human being.


The Jewish community does not believe Jesus was the son of God,
Christains do, so that why they want to claim a crime has been commited.
But if the Jewish community DID believe he was the son of GOD, then we would have never been saved.

Things in life happen for a reason

Have a wonderful;l weekend sweetie.


crucified susan; crucified.

Answer 8

Symbol of the character of JEWS, in 587 before Jesus (Peace be upon him), When Hazrat Yahaya (Peace be upon him) was beheaded then not a single JEW spoke against it.
JEWS not accepted Jesus (Peace be upon him) bcoz he not gave lives to all dead JEWS & not killed the rest of the world. Now tell me is there any one more idiot than JEWS.
JEWS not accepted Jesus (Peace be upon him) other reason is the he got humiliating crucifixion and it will not happened to true prophet which is not true. He was not crucified and he will be back to prove JEWS to prove the claim of them that they MAAZ ALLAH killed Jesus (Peace be upon him) as wrong.
All JEWS will be killed by Jesus (Peace be upon him).
Jesus will kill the Antichrist at the gate of Ludd (Lod in present-day Israel, site of an airport and a major Israeli military base).
A time of great peace and serenity during and after the remaining lifetime of Jesus.
Both Muslims & Christians are agreed on it that “ANTICHRIST” will be a JEW.

Answer 9

First of all, Jesus WAS a Jew. When people say "the jews killed jesus' they say it as if the jews are 'they' and Jesus wasn't one of them. It's like saying about every american killed in that the "Americans Killed Him" it makes no sense in context. When it is taken out of context it creates anti-semitism that is not appropriate.

Answer 10

Do not look for any organized relgion's doctrine to be entirely
self-consistant.

That's not what religion is for.

Religion offers spiritual guidance, gives you a sense of community
and a common sense of purpose.

None of the big religions are entirely free of inconsistancies.