They dont believe in the same Jesus that christians do. Gen 1:1 In the begining God (elohim-hebrew word for God is plural) case solved
2007-02-16 08:55:35
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answer #1
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answered by white dove 5
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Jehovah's Witnesses believe what the Bible says about Jesus. Does it say Jesus is God? When confronted by his enemies, who did Jesus say he was? God? No; he identified himself as God's Son. Isn't that different than saying: "I am God"?
Is Jesus part of a trinity? No. According to the Athanasian Creed's definition of the trinity: "There is One Father, not Three Fathers; one Son, not Three Sons; One Holy Ghost, not Three Holy Ghosts. And in this Trinity none is afore or after Other, None is greater or less than Another, but the whole Three Persons are Co-eternal together, and Co-equal."
So according to the definition of the trinity, MORE is involved than just saying the Father, Son, and holy spirit are all God. They must ALSO be co-eternal and co-equal, "none greater or less than another." Does the Bible support this definition?
The answer is no! There is NO verse that says God is made up of 3 co-eternal, co-equal persons. Go ahead and look; you won't find it.
Let us look at some trinitarian "proofs". John 10:30 says: "I and the Father are one." Do you see the trinity here? Does this verse say anything about 3 co-equal persons making up God? No! For that matter, it doesn't even mention 3 persons. It only mentions two.
How about John 1:1? Do you see a trinity here? I don't. As with the previous "proof", this verse is only talking about 2 persons, not 3.
How about Matt. 8:58 where it says in part: "Before Abraham was I AM"? Where is the trinity here? Does it say anything about 3 co-equal persons making up one God? I don't see it. Can you?
How about Matt. 28:19, where the Father, Son, and holy spirit are all mentioned in the same verse? Does it say that they are equal in ANYTHING? No. To read a 3-in-one God into this verse is to read something that is not there.
The bottom line is that the trinity is not a Bible teaching. It is based on the man-made Athanasian Creed.
That is why Jehovah's Witnesses reject the trinity.
2007-02-16 16:52:17
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answer #2
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answered by LineDancer 7
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Can you and your son be the same person? No. God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit aren't a person.
Jesus is God's first creature."He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation"-Colossians 1:15.
The Holy Spirit is God's active force.At Genesis 1:2 the Bible states that "God's active force ["spirit" (Hebrew, ruach)] was moving to and fro over the surface of the waters." Here, God's spirit was his active force working to shape the earth.
Many centuries before the time of Christ, there were triads, or trinities, of gods in ancient Babylonia and Assyria. The French "Larousse Encyclopedia of Mythology" notes one such triad in that Mesopotamian area: "The universe was divided into three regions each of which became the domain of a god. Anu's share was the sky. The earth was given to Enlil. Ea became the ruler of the waters. Together they constituted the triad of the Great Gods."
The book "The Symbolism of Hindu Gods and Rituals" says regarding a Hindu trinity that existed centuries before Christ: "Siva is one of the gods of the Trinity. He is said to be the god of destruction. The other two gods are Brahma, the god of creation and Vishnu, the god of maintenance. . . . To indicate that these three processes are one and the same the three gods are combined in one form."—Published by A. Parthasarathy, Bombay.
A Dictionary of Religious Knowledge notes that many say that the Trinity "is a corruption borrowed from the heathen religions, and ingrafted on the Christian faith." And The Paganism in Our Christianity declares: "The origin of the [Trinity] is entirely pagan."
WHY, for thousands of years, did none of God's prophets teach his people about the Trinity? At the latest, would Jesus not use his ability as the Great Teacher to make the Trinity clear to his followers? Would God inspire hundreds of pages of Scripture and yet not use any of this instruction to teach the Trinity if it were the "central doctrine" of faith?
2007-02-16 16:58:17
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answer #3
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answered by Alex 5
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Jesus Christ is the son of the Most Holy Father Jehovah. they are not part of the trinity. yes Jesus said you seen me you seen the Father. what he was saying was that he was with the Father from the beginning and that he knows his Father real well. Jesus is seating at the right hand of Jehovah God. when Jesus was on earth, he prayed to his Father in the heaven. Jehovah cannot die. when Jesus was baptized Jehovah said this is my son the beloved. also the Holy Spirit is Jehovah's active force
2007-02-16 17:47:34
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answer #4
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answered by lover of Jehovah and Jesus 7
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No. Jesus is an arch angel, second to the Almighty, but not literally a part of the same Almighty. There are many Bible scriptures that support this. One example was when Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist. Immediately after the baptism, the Holy Spirit descended upon Jesus, appearing like a dove. Then a voice came out of heaven stating that "This is my son, whom I have approved." If Jesus was God, why would he make it look like there are two seperate beings? Other examples were when Jesus would pray. Who was he praying too? Himself? No, he was praying to a higher authority....God Almighty.
Read the Bible. You would be surprised what you can learn.
2007-02-16 16:58:49
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answer #5
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answered by Anonymous
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No, just the opposite, we believe Jesus is the Son and Jehovah is the Father of Jesus.
There is no such thing as the Trinity, This is largest lie that Satan uses to keep people from knowing who the True God is, if he can do this, he's got you.
“Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father.” (Matthew 24:36) How do these words confirm that Jesus is not Almighty God?
Jesus says that the Father knows more than the Son does. If Jesus were part of Almighty God, however, he would know the same facts as his Father. So, then, the Son and the Father cannot be equal. Yet, some will say: ‘Jesus had two natures. Here he speaks as a man.’ But even if that were so, what about the holy spirit? If it is part of the same God as the Father, why does Jesus not say that it knows what the Father knows?
1st of all Jesus said: He pointed to God as the Source of his life, saying, “I live because of the Father.” According to the context, this meant that his life resulted from or was caused by his Father, even as the gaining of life by dying men would result from their faith in Jesus’ ransom sacrifice.
Jesus’ being called the “only-begotten Son” does not mean that the other spirit creatures produced were not God’s sons, for they are called sons as well. However, by virtue of his being the sole direct creation of his Father, the firstborn Son was unique, different from all others of God’s sons, all of whom were created or begotten by Jehovah through that firstborn Son. So “the Word” was Jehovah’s “only-begotten Son” in a particular sense,
Jesus is also “Mighty God” and “Eternal Father.” This does not mean that he usurps the authority and position of Jehovah, who is “God our Father.” (2 Corinthians 1:2) “He [Jesus] gave no consideration to a seizure, namely, that he should be equal to God.” (Philippians 2:6) He is called Mighty God, not Almighty God. Jesus never thought of himself as God Almighty, for he spoke of his Father as “the only true God,” that is, the only God who should be worshiped. (John 17:3;
Rev. 1:1; 3:14, RS: “The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him, why did God have to give the revelation to Jesus, if he is God? .
Does the Bible teach that none of those who are said to be included in the Trinity is greater or less than another, that all are equal, that all are almighty? Mark 13:32, RS: “Of that day or that hour no ones knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.” (Of course, that would not be the case if Father, Son, and Holy Spirit were coequal, comprising one Godhead. And if, as some suggest, the Son was limited by his human nature from knowing, the question remains, Why did the Holy Spirit not know?)
John 14:28, RS: “[Jesus said:] If you loved me, you would have rejoiced, because I go to the Father; for the Father is greater than I.”
1 Cor. 11:3, RS: “I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a woman is her husband, and the head of Christ is God.” (Clearly, then, Christ is not God, and God is of superior rank to Christ. It should be noted that this was written about 55 C.E., some 22 years after Jesus returned to heaven.
A person who is really seeking to know the truth about God is not going to search the Bible hoping to find a text that he can construe as fitting what he already believes. He wants to know what God’s Word itself says. He may find some texts that he feels can be read in more than one way, but when these are compared with other Biblical statements on the same subject their meaning will become clear. It should be noted at the outset that most of the texts used as “proof” of the Trinity actually mention only two persons, not three; so even if the Trinitarian explanation of the texts were correct, these would not prove that the Bible teaches the Trinity.
2007-02-17 02:07:37
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answer #6
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answered by BJ 7
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No, we feel based on what the Bible teaches that Jesus is the Son of Jehovah. He was the first Creation.
2007-02-17 12:40:05
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answer #7
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answered by Ish Var Lan Salinger 7
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No, we believe that Jesus is God's son.
The trinity is a false doctrine introduced to Christianity by Constantine in an effort to convert pagans to Christians so the empire would be united under one religion.
PS: It's funny what some of you think we believe. We don't believe in a "different" Jesus or that he was "only" a man. It's unfair and uninformed to propogate misleading statements about others. "I think" is not as good as "I know".
2007-02-16 16:52:48
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answer #8
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answered by danni_d21 4
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Not Almighty God (that's Jehovah - our Heavenly Father).
God's son.
Our savior.
Resurrected to IMMORTALITY (just to clarify what someone else said).
Currently reigning as king of God's Kingdom in the heavens, soon to bring God's will to the earth, as it is in heaven.
2007-02-17 20:54:51
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answer #9
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answered by krobin 2
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No, we don't. We believe that Jesus is the Son of God.
2007-02-16 16:53:54
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answer #10
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answered by Sparkle1 6
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No, I don't think so.
I worked with a Jehovah Witness in the Past.
Nice person, but Jesus is not the Creator.
Pretty sure of that for them.
Jesus IS THE CREATOR for me.
Ditto.................
2007-02-16 16:57:11
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answer #11
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answered by maguyver727 7
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