An Open Debate! Palestine was PALESTINE long before it 'became' Israel?

Question

.very old, very old Bibles and history books show Palestine, NOT AS A PART of Jordan but as Palestine. NOT Israel.
And it is amazing to me, That no other group of people grasp the so-called word of the Bible, a Bible THEY wrote, as a means to lay claim to land that in reality belongs to all of mankind.
It remains amazing. It will always be amazing.
Can someone (not someone tired of answering questions, by the way) but someone in the know, please direct me to a book of the Bible NOT written by people of Israel) that tells me Palestine was NOT located where Israel claims such lands for itself today.

My thanks to Morpheus who far, has answered the questions. Im looking for answers to MY questions answerers. NOT equivocations !!

Answer 1

YES IT WAS

Israel was set up as a legal establishment after World War 2 as reperation for the awful Holocaust (ignore the liars who say it was a hoax). Before that Palestine was home to thousands of Native Arabs living there, who had lived in relative peace long before.

The failure to recognize Palestine as a state is coupled with the Arabs' failure to recognize Israel as a state. It is ISRAEL that DOES NOT EXIST, not in physical form, but in the minds of their believers.

Why would God assign a nation to a Faith? And if he gave that part of land in the middle east to the Jews, would it not have been made clear? NO - Jerusalam belongs to not just the Jews, not just the Muslims, not just the Christians, but all of them. And by fighting over it, the hypocrisy is exposed!

There never was any 'Israel'. It was a ploy for western governments to exercise control over the middle east. The anti-Zionists shout that America does the US' bidding - but in truth the US took Iraq to have leverage over the dominance of Israel in the region. It is power games, religion has nothing to do with it.

More bloodshed and blood spilling - in the name of the peaceful loving God!

Answer 2

Palestine is the name of a Roman province. It consists of more than Israel alone. Palestinians are non Jews living in the area. Israel was form when Joshia invaded the land roughly 1500 BC, long before the Romans occupied it.

The bible starts with the five books of Moses. Moses was a Hebrew prophet. The Holy Scriptures are a collection of scrolls consisting of the Five Books of Moses, the Hebrew prophets, and the Hebrew Writings. The Christian bible consists of the Holy Scriptures (Old Testament) and the New Testament. The New Testament was written by Jews and non Jews.

There is no other book. Basically the bible is a book out of Israel.

Israel is a kingdom that ended in 70 AD at the end of the Roman Jewish War. Until 1947, the area was under the rules of several countries. After WWI, the British occupied the area they called Palestine using the Roman name but not the Roman boundaries. After WWII, the Jews reoccupied the land call Israel. The United Nations approved the occupation; however, that approval had an Arab component which was never implemented due to the Arab Israeli war.

Any Palestinian Website will give you the history. The justification of the Israeli state is not the bible but the UN.

Answer 3

The region is Palestine, but it was definitely Israel before it was Palestine. Hundreds of years B.C. there were two countries, Israel and Judah, and they were first united under King David as a United Israel. Under Solomon, I believe, the Babylonians came in and conquered it. Later the Persians and later the Romans held it and then the Byzantines. And, then the various Muslim caliphates fought withe Byzantines over it, and later the Europeans came to the aid of the Byzantines to try to push back the invading Muslims.

After the Byzantine Empire finally fell in 1453 with the fall of Constantinople, the Ottoman Empire held it, and that lasted until World War I, when the British took over under the British Mandate from the League of Nations. Israel was then formed by the UN in the 1940s.

There has never been a nation called Palestine. It was the name of the region.

Jordan and Iraq did not exist as separate countries until the British carved up the region, essentially arbitrarily. Syria really never existed either, except to the extent that the Assyrians were a great empire hundreds of years B.C.

Palestine was, of course, located in the same region Israel is now located. However, it is just the name of a region (like the Romans called it Judea), and not a separate country.

Answer 4

First off, the bible was not written by Israelies or Palestineans but by men of God that were moved of the Holy Spirit and they were not all from that area. As a matter of fact, Palestine is still Palestine and always was since it was given to the people of Israel who are now commonly called Jews but really came from the tribe of Judah. If you will give it a bit of study, you will find what I am saying to be very accruate. It would be like saying that the United States is not the United States because someone from Canada or Mexico came and made claim to some of it. The rights to the land was given originally to Israel or the tribe of Judah and it was all called Palestine at that time. there is no credible book that states what you want it to say.

Answer 5

In the bible is "Philistine", as in the Philistines, a greek/minoan people who were first repulsed from Egypt and later settled on the coast of Israel. After the Bar Kochba revolt the romans adopted "Palestine" instead of Judea, the true name, in an attempt eradicate the Jewish connection to the land. Today's Palestinians are not those Philistines, so no, Palestine is not in the bible, and neither are the Palestinians.

Answer 6

Clearly the people who do not acknowledge a debate on this issue are not aware of the history of how Israel became a "country". Study the history of that region people and lets try not to just give the ignorant/quick answers...If after studying the history of the region, you feel Israel should be a nation then there is definitely a reason for debate...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel-Palestine_conflict

Answer 7

Palestine is still there, except some Arabs sold some land to Jewish people between 1860 and 1920 and then the UN gave the Israels some more territory in 1949.

Arabs aren't allowed to sell their land? Jewish aren't allowed to buy it?

Since Palestine hasn't been a soverign nation in thousands of years, but always a territory or protectorate, it has no say over the ownership of lands.

The Israellis, under agreement, are about to make Palestine a sovergn nation, but only those areas not claimed by treaties of 1949, land purchases and lands captured in war.

Some of those captured lands they are giving back.

Tell us about the dispute in Kasmir and Tibet. We'd like to hear about those too. Those are also land disputes of sovernty and ownership and rights.

Tell us about the future of Australia since the Abborigonies are said to be Afghan immigrants. Is Australia's sovergnty to become in dispute at some future date.

Answer 8

Palestine is a just a name. Just like the Egyptians of today have very little to do with the Egyptians of ancient Egypt, the Palestinians of today have almost no connection to the Palestinians discussed in the bible, it is a moot point. It would be like saying I am really from Amsterdam because New York used to be called New Amsterdam.

Answer 9

It doesnt take a lot to see that the palestinians might be desperate, un educated compared to their israeli counterparts, depressed and hatefilled, but it also doesnt take a lot to see that the current government in Israel is FAR from being a righteous and Godly regime.

In my opinion, righteousness and Godliness cannot be in the same boat as self-servicing.

Religion, is being used by BOTH sides, to fuel hatred, and controversy, when its not about religion at all, but about proving who rules over who.

Answer 10

God gave the land to Israel.
Then through them out.
After a quick search, my Bible program did not pull up Palestine as a word in the Bible even once.
Can you help me find it?