How can you define perfection in this GOD made world???

Question

Debate : When GOD's perfect why do n't we see his world to be perfect ???

Answer 1

Know yourself. Thou Art That.

Answer 2

I would like to start with a question ? Is there TRUTH in this world? TRUH, we define as that entity which is changeless and eternal and acts as the essence of the world.

If you say there is no TRUTH in this world, then you will run into contradiction because atleast the statement will have to be true for ever!!

So, there is Truth, which as we defined is changeless and eternal and is the essence of the world.If this Changeless essence is there, why is it that we are not sensing him?

To this let us take three plates, one empty, the other two containing sugar .The Empty and the second plate containing sugar are labelled "sugar" while in the third the word "Sugar" is written using sugar itself.

Now I ask you a question. Which plate has more TRUTH?
You will say the first one is false since it has no sugar but refers to it,the second has sugar but the statement "sugar" on its label is written in ink and hence not consistent (or untrue) because the name is separate from the entity,wheras you find where the entity and its name coincide there is highest form of TRUTH or GOD.

Now you will also see that less the names (labels) more the TRUTH (Or Perfection) and vice versa.because all labels are just that they have little truth in them whereas sugar in the third plate which is not labelled but has its name and substance merged it has highest TRUTH.

Same way, the more words and names we use to describe God (Or Perfection) and the more attributes (such as perfect) we use to describe him ,the farther we move from him.That is why like in Patanjali yoga or as in Islam, the GOD is un nameable and unsensible (as the highest state of mind) .And that is why we do not see perfection in the world,since our minds are yet to climb up into a nameless ,atributeless world!

But how do we know GOD? Reading "sugar" will not give you the taste of it . Similarly ,even talking, singing about GOD will not take you to the "fullest GOD".To know the "fullest GOD" , one has to do dhyanam or meditation!

Regards

V.I.G.Menon

Answer 3

In the name of Allah the most Gracious the Most Merciful.
God is perfection.He [glory be to him ] has created the entire
universe and all that is in it above it and below it with,Perfection,
wisdom , and for a purpose.Everything in the universe fits
perfectly into place,In the alternating of the night and the day, the
creation of the sun and the moon, the millions of stars , galaxys
constellations all moving along their orbits peacefully with out
colliding with each other,The colourful Flora and fauna, ever
animal and bird created to survive its enviorement with its own
distinct features, colourful plants and flowers each distinctive
from each in colour and smell , the perfect human anatomy
every being with his / her own identity, DNA, Fingerprints that
can never match and all the other wonders of the world so
praised and glorrified is the creator this is what those who
believe in God see.But for those who disbelieve in the Signs of
God will always Be blind even with their eyes open , because
what is Imperfect is in their hearts, in their minds in their thoughts and in their actions they will always be deaf , dumb and
blind ,so how can they appreciate the Favours of God.
By the way perfection is defined as a state of complete
Excellence.which again means to find everything in harmony with its surroundings. Read an english translation of the Muslims
Holy book the Quran to understand perfection.

Answer 4

When GOD's perfect why do n't we see his world to be perfect? Because we are not yet ripe. There are among us who are half-ripe to understand perfection but knew all along there's more than just understanding. They need to overhaul the subconscious completely accumulated over many life times of ignorance. Jesus showed us the way to live a perfect life. His examples are hints/clues how we would best understand life and see the perfection in it.

How can you define perfection in this GOD made world??? Are you referring to the physical world? I define it as a perfect school for all of us to learn. We learn best by experience, pain and suffering. They are our best teachers.

Answer 5

Perfection is proved Daily.
Functioning of Our Solar system.
Functioning of Universe
Lesson from above : If Prime Minister takes care of Till the Last citizen in any country, Human also is perfect, but not forgetting the Clue given by above functioning - God Family

Answer 6

You present day your case nicely and that i'm advantageous which you of course have self assurance that God is all those poor issues you try to teach. God is so a techniques previous our wisdom that we as mere mortals will by no ability comprehend totally each and all of the attributes of God. guy can the two have self assurance God is sturdy or undesirable. i can bypass for the time of the bible and locate many scriptures which will teach the different of what you assert. So who's right? I ensue to have self assurance that God is sturdy and believe Him to do what's right and loving for mankind. we are able to stand in the past God and questions the "whys" yet only God is conscious the beginning up and end of each existence and each and all of the international. Like once you have been a infant, you in all probability theory that your father and mom have been advise at circumstances, yet they have been conserving you from harm. i became into as quickly as petrified of the God of the old testomony, so I sort of know the type you experience. however the subject isn't God, that's us and what we comprehend of the region of that element and place. i wish some day which you come across the God of love who cares approximately you. advantages.

Answer 7

While God created this world and placed man in it, God also gave man free will and the ability to make choices. Obviously many poor choices have been made throughout history leaving us with the world we now have come to know. It is our choices and actions here on earth that determine our acceptance into heaven in the afterlife.

Of course, your beliefs may be different than mine, but that's what religion is all about; perception and faith.

Answer 8

Perfection in this God-made world...hmm...that's a tough...OH! How about HIV/AIDS? It's the perfect virus! Or....Tsunamis/Earthquakes? Silent, swift, deadly...perfect natural disasters (Tornadoes miss too often!)....or how about...Nazis? God's perfect @$$-Holes, can't find a more perfect example of evil then Nazis....or...TELEVANGELISTS!!! Just when you thought Nazis were the most evil, we find Televangelists!!! The perfect scam artists!!! Or what about christianity, the perfect control mechanism/self-esteem booster? The church does a great job of keeping people in check with idle threats, and all the christians I know have the worst case of "holier than thou" I've ever SEEN!

Answer 9

That's easy. He gave us this world, we gave it to the devil. Now it's showing the consequences of being outside of the will of God. This world is not Heaven and we shouldn't expect it to resemble Heaven. While we are here we have the capacity to love or hate or be apathetic. The world can't be perfect so long as people are choosing to hate or be apathetic, to be self centered and ungodly. If we choose God while we are here, He will bring us to Heaven and that world will be perfect.

Answer 10

God made world is perfect in the sense it is created so that we return to the spiritual world in the associatio of the Lord and not stay in this miserable material world

Just like one goes to school not to stay there permanently or one goes to the hospital not to stay there for over. From the school we learn and go out and from the hospital we get cured and go out. Similarly in this temporary miserable world of repeated birth and death (Mrityu samsara) we learn the lesson and go back to our original home, back to God's abode in the spiritual world

The purpose of life is not MATERIAL HAPPINESS which is transitory, flickering and temporary. In opposition to that is the eternal SPIRITUAL HAPPINESS obtained with love of Godhead. Lord Krishna certifies that this material world is full of suffereing and that we should return to the spiritual world.So, the purpose of the world is perfect in this sense.

In another sense everything is perfectly organised so that everything is perfectly functioning without extra endeavor.
Sir Isopanishad mentions, "The Personality of Godhead is perfect and complete, and because He is completely perfect, all emanations from Him, such as this phenomenal world, are perfectly equipped as complete wholes. Whatever is produced of the Complete Whole is also complete in itself. Because He is the Complete Whole, even though so many complete units emanate from Him, He remains the complete balance".
See below some excerpts from the purport to above by
His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, Founder-Acharya of ISKCON
(International Society for Krishna Consciousness)

Thus the Complete Whole is not formless. If He were formless, or if He were less than His creation in any other way, He could not be complete. The Complete Whole must contain everything both within and beyond our experience; otherwise He cannot be complete.
The Complete Whole, the Personality of Godhead, has immense potencies, all of which are as complete as He is. Thus this phenomenal world is also complete in itself. The twenty-four elements of which this material universe is a temporary manifestation are arranged to produce everything necessary for the maintenance and subsistence of this universe. No other unit in the universe need make an extraneous effort to try to maintain the universe. The universe functions on its own time scale, which is fixed by the energy of the Complete Whole, and when that schedule is completed, this temporary manifestation will be annihilated by the complete arrangement of the Complete Whole.

All facilities are given to the small complete units (namely the living beings) to enable them to realize the Complete Whole. All forms of incompleteness are experienced due to incomplete knowledge of the Complete Whole. The human form of life is a complete manifestation of the consciousness of the living being, and it is obtained after evolving through 8,400,000 species of life in the cycle of birth and death. If in this human life of full consciousness the living entity does not realize his completeness in relation to the Complete Whole, he loses the chance to realize his completeness and is again put into the evolutionary cycle by the law of material nature.

Answer 11

Plants and animals are all made perfect. Only for man, God gave free will, to make what he wants of himself. Some of us better ourselves, some of us spoil this chance. But no man has been able to make himself perfect, therefore only on death, when we merge into the cosmos, merge into eternity, merge into the heart of God does man attain perfection.