Muslims, does the quran verify that the bible is right?

Question

Sura 29:46 Muslims are told by Allah, not to question the authority of the scriptures of the Christians, saying, "And dispute ye not with the People of the Book, but say, "We believe in the revelation which has come down to us and in that which came down to you; Our Allah and your Allah is one;


Suras 6:34, 6:115, 10:64 and 50:28,29 clearly says to Muslims, "No change can there be in the words of Allah" and that Allah cannot alter (or abrogate) his words." So the Torah and Christian Gospels are correct, because Allah did verify this fact -- this clearly makes the Muslim Qur'an false; because it contradicts Allah.

The same Bible Muhammad would have seen (if he ever did) is in both (1) The Vatican (Codex Vaticanus) and (2) British Museum (Codex Sinaticus). It is all there, including Jesus dying on the cross as atonement for our sins. And, His resurrection, and ascension into heaven - in front of many witnesses. The New Testament is preserved in almost perfect condition in these

"They" could not have changed the Christian Gospels after Muhammad, since there are around 5,300 manuscripts of the whole or part of the Greek text of the New Testament (Injil) pre-dating Muhammad still in existence. Worldwide, there are 24,800 copies of these original manuscripts. These include the Codex Vaticanus (325-350 AD) located in the Vatican library and the Codex Siniaticus (350 AD) located in the British Museum. There are also 80,000 quotations in the works of early Christian writers which are so extensive that the New Testament could virtually be reconstructed from them without the actual New Testament documents. Then there is the obvious fact that the Christian Gospels were so widely distributed both before and after Muhammad, that any attempt to change (add/subtract) something in the Christian Gospels would have resulted in immediate discovery and condemnation.

Additionally, the New Testament was handed down from apostolic times and its genuineness was guarded by Christian churches, and it was zealously watched by enemies of Christianity. A very wide protest would have resulted from both sides were it tampered with. Likewise, the Septuagint edition of the Old Testament was always in the hands of both Christians and Jews, both rivals in religion. Any attempts to change this by either side would have been vigorously attacked

If I had questions, I would learn hebrew and read the ones from Mohammads times. Find out for yourself

there are still 5300 manuscripts of the bible from Mohammads time. They have been compared, and the Bible has been proven accurate.

Answer 1

This makes absolutely no sense for the following reasons:

1. If Muslims are supposed to agree with the Torah and Bible, why are they also commanded to kill or demand money (the jizya or whatever its called) to Christians and Jews?

2. There are all kinds of connections between the Torah and New Test, they both discuss the same topics and issues.... the only debate is whether the Messiah referred to in Part 1 was in fact Jesus from Part 2. Both Christians and Jews have parts of their Bible which predict that one day Israel will be at war with itself and Judea will fight Jerusalem. (It isn't supposed to happen for centuries however)

3. Muslims want to destroy Israel but according to their own history, they technically ARE Israeli. This is because they claim to be descended from Abraham just like the Jews. If they are the final stage of Abraham's religion why wouldn't THEY claim to be the "real" Jews instead of wanting to eliminate them.

4. If Muslims believe in the Torah they would then also believe in the 10 Commandments which are very simple, basic, common sense rules. The main one I'm thinking of here is DO NOT KILL which is a direct contradiction of the whole concept of jihad.

and my biggest question is:

5. If Allah agreed with the Bible then he would have also agreed that Jesus was the son of God. Why then are Christians known as "polytheists" in so many Qu'ran verses? This would suggest that Muhammad didn't believe in Messiahs or Holy Trinitys, and considered Jesus to be a character like Zeus or Neptune.




If there's any way to explain this stuff then someone please enlighten Lain.

Answer 2

Take my advise and study well before you go and quote!

There are other verses in the Qur'an that state that the Bible and the Torah have been altered. The Bible and the Torah referred to by those verses quoted by you are the original Bible and the original Torah (referred to in Islamic studies as the Bible and Torah of history).

Also the Qur'an states that the current Bible and Torah are not totally false; some verses are still genuine, but most have been altered.

Do not open the Qur'an and pick what suites your purpose. Things are far more complicated than what you are doing. Reading, reciting and quoting from the Qur'an is an independant and scientific department in the Qur'anic studies.

Answer 3

There are quite a few Bibles available, and that all of them attempt to collect the main sacred of the texts of a spiritual faith. in case you're no longer a member of that faith-walk, the Bible, of direction, won't propose something to you, and rightly so. First we've the Jewish Bible, that's yet another term for the Hebrew Bible, that's the selection of texts sacred to Jewish concept. we've quite a few Christian Bibles: Orthodox (the oldest), Roman Catholic, and Protestant. those are very slightly diverse takes on surely the comparable selection of literature. All of those Bibles are just about comparable, different than for some obscure texts that are the two in or out, in accordance with who's in fee on the time. Frankly, those texts are basically no longer that considerable. I truthfully have not gotten into the quite some variations, provided that's a very diverse question altogether.

Answer 4

let's see of the history of the Quran and the bible:

we believe in the original gosepel wich isnot present now, that what the Quran verifies!

The Bible is a collection of writings done in different periods of history, by different writers. The various denominations of Christianity are not in agreement on the canon (the list of books accepted by the Church as authoritative or divinely inspired) of the Christian Bible.

While most of these books are agreed upon by almost all Christians, there are some books that are not universally accepted. The Protestants call them Apocrypha and reject them; while the Roman Catholics and the Eastern Orthodox Church call them Deuterocanonical Books (second canon) and accept them as divinely inspired.

The Catholic Encyclopedia has this to say on the topic:

“The idea of a complete and clear-cut canon of the New Testament existing from the beginning, that is from Apostolic times, has no foundation in history. The Canon of the New Testament, like that of the Old, is the result of a development, of a process at once stimulated by disputes with doubters, both within and without the Church, and retarded by certain obscurities and natural hesitations, and which did not reach its final term until the dogmatic definition of the Tridentine Council.”

About the earliest existing texts of the Bible, too, there is a lot of confusion. The oldest extant manuscript of the Bible is believed to be the Codex Vaticanus (preserved in the Vatican Library), which is slightly older than the Codex Sinaiticus (preserved in the British Library), both of which were transcribed in the fourth century.

As for the story of Jesus, there were at least 50 gospels written in the first and second century CE. Four of them—Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John—were included in the official canon during the fourth century CE and are found today in every Bible. All of the original copies of the gospels were lost. What we have now are hand-written copies which are an unknown number of replications removed from the originals.

After Jesus’s time, there came to be two sects of Christians: those who followed St. Paul (who is the real founder of modern Christianity) and those who followed the Apostles of Jesus. In course of time, the Pauline sect overshadowed the Apostles’ sect. So Paul’s own writings, as well as the Gospels written under his influence, came to be accepted by the later Christian Church as Scripture.

Rudolf Bultmann, a prominent 20th-century professor of New Testament studies, writes:

“We can now know almost nothing concerning the life and personality of Jesus, since the early Christian sources show no interest in either, are moreover fragmentary and often legendary; and other sources about Jesus do not exist” (Rudolf Bultmann, Jesus and the Word, p. 8).

The earliest of the four gospels is Mark’s and this was written sometime from 57 to 75 CE, according to scholars. The other gospels were composed much later than this, and the last of the four gospels, John’s, was probably written between 85 and 100 CE. All these gospels were originally in Greek and their authorship is a subject of dispute.

The Bible does not contain self-reference; that is, the word Bible is not in the Bible. In fact, it is an extreme position held only by some Christian groups that the Bible—in its entirety—is the revealed word of God. But the presence of so many contradictions and patently questionable ideas makes this claim untenable.

In comparison, the saying of the Qur’an as the record of the Word of God dictated to His Prophet is borne out by the following facts: The speaker in the Qur’an is God talking directly to Man. (The sayings of the Prophet, called hadiths, are in other books.) The Qur’an repeatedly says that it is the Word of God. It has self-reference; that is to say, it names itself 70 times as the Qur’an.

The verses of the Qur’an were revealed to Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be on him) in the course of 23 years of his life, as and when the events in the unfolding development of the religion of God called for divine guidance. As soon as the Prophet received these verses, he dictated them to his disciples, who not only wrote them down, but also learned them by heart. There were so many people who had memorized the Qur’an, that we can say that from the first day of its revelation as it were, the Qur’an was in the hands and hearts of the people.

Before the death of the Prophet, the whole of the Qur’an was written down, examined, and verified by the Prophet himself. From that time onwards, it has remained safe from corruption, as several copies of it were in the possession of the Muslims. So it was not possible to make any changes to its verses, even if someone wanted to do so.

Moreover, God has promised in the Qur’an to preserve it, saying what means:

*{Certainly, it was We Who revealed the Reminder [the Qur’an] and certainly We shall preserve it.}* (Al-Hijr 15:9)

At the time of the Prophet’s death, a number of the Prophet’s Companions already had assembled the portions of the Qur’an with them into a volume. It was during the time of the first caliph Abu Bakr that a leading scholar and scribe of the Prophet, Zayd ibn Thabit, was appointed to compile an official version. After meticulous work, he prepared the official collection known as the mushaf.

One of the foremost reasons for the continued incorruptibility of the Qur’an is that it has been preserved in its original language, unlike the Bible. No one in the Muslim world has ever thought to supersede it with a translation. Thus, the Qur’an we have today is the same Qur’an that the Prophet received from God. Its authenticity and genuineness, therefore, are unimpeachable.

One of the miracles of the Qur’an, which was revealed 14 centuries ago, is the fact that it can be read and understood by the Arabic-speaking people living today.

Every language undergoes changes as time passes, and a hundred or two hundred years is long enough for a language to undergo substantial changes. Thus anyone who knows the rudiments of the history of languages knows that logically it should be impossible for the Arabic-speaking peoples of today to read and understand a book 14 centuries old. And yet, everyday, every hour, every minute, in fact every second of the 24 hours of the 365 days of every year of the past centuries has been alive with the reading and study of the Qur’anic verses. And it goes on into the future. The volume and scope of it multiplies in every imaginable way with the coming of the multimedia. This started at the time of the Prophet and it has continued unceasingly till the present day, making this the ever-present miracle of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him), rivaling all other miracles so far.

Allah says in the Qur’an what means:
*{This is the Book; in it is sure guidance, no doubt, for those who are God-conscious}* (Al-Baqarah 2:2)

*{And say: “The truth has arrived, and falsehood perished; for falsehood is bound to perish.”}* (Al-Israa’ 17:81)

Answer 5

Qura'n is from God Almighty, revealed to Last and Final Prophet Muhammad(pbuh).
Qura'n referred Original Toarah, Zabbor and Injeel revealed to Moses, David, and Jesus(Peace and blessings of Almighty on all of them).
Today’s 400 /500 versions are not worthy to be called God's words. Written by deferent people . One of them even never met Jesus During his first Life on earth, and claim himself that He is apostil of Jesus. That means any one can claim any time he or she is apostil of any Prophet???

Answer 6

They are just books dude, base your life on more than just a book. Try reason, experience, and throw in some tradition to carry along with the belief in a book.

Answer 7

The words of Allah can't be change, it means that if He said hurting someone is wrong, the hurting someone is a sin, period. Don't care if you humans say it's alright, it would still be a sin to hurt someone, that's what it meant.

The bible is just a book written by man, just as any book. It's man's hand that wrote it, if it is written "God is absolute", I can easily erase it and change it to "I love pie" in your terms of understanding.

The surahs refered to my first meaning.

Answer 8

The Koran has no such capability. It can only state an opinion.

Answer 9

Yes actually it was right,when it had no authors name on the cover,now it's no longer valid.