Why is evolution not dead, when it was killed 40 years ago?

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http://www.pathlights.com/ce_encyclopedia/20hist12.htm#1966

These are scientists, not christians. Why isn't this explained to more people?

*Murray Eden showed that it would be impossible for even a single ordered pair of genes to be produced by DNA mutations in the bacteria, E. coli,—with 5 billion years in which to produce it! His estimate was based on 5 trillion tons of the bacteria covering the planet to a depth of nearly an inch during that 5 billion years. He then explained that the genes of E. coli contain over a trillion (1012) bits of data. That is the number 10 followed by 12 zeros. *Eden then showed the mathematical impossibility of protein forming by chance. He also reported on his extensive investigations into genetic data on hemoglobin (red blood cells).

Hemoglobin has two chains, called alpha and beta. A minimum of 120 mutations would be required to convert alpha to beta. At least 34 of those changes require changeovers in 2 or 3 nucleotides. Yet, *Eden pointed out that, if a single nucleotide change occurs through mutation, the result ruins the blood and kills the organism!

*George Wald stood up and explained that he had done extensive research on hemoglobin also,—and discovered that if just ONE mutational change of any kind was made in it, the hemoglobin would not function properly. For example, the change of one amino acid out of 287 in hemoglobin causes sickle-cell anemia. A glutamic acid unit has been changed to a valine unit—and, as a result, 25% of those suffering with this anemia die

Answer 1

GREAT information. Your point is extremely well made. With this sort of information the evolutionists not only have Christians, the word of God concerning creation, etc. they also have scientific, mathematical reasoning showing their belief/theories are flawed. Thank You...

Answer 2

The big assumption is this all happening in one line. The α chain did not become β. One gene duplicated then became α and β. In fact, there are two copies of the α chain. The problem is exaggerated by saying you have to go from one end to the other instead of starting at the middle and working outwards. With the exception of a few amino acids that determine the heme binding site, most can change. Even the sickle cell gene cell you cited is not incompatible with reproduction and conveys a survival advantage as the cells will not harbor malaria parasites.

Answer 3

You should have done a little more research sunshine.

Eden's research was extremely limited, only focussing on polypeptide chain lengths of 250. The following is a summary of the events that followed his presentation.

'facing tough criticism in a discussion period (where his paper was torn apart, pp. 12-9) he was forced to admit again that perhaps "there are other domains in this tremendous space which are equally likely to be carriers of life"'

Added*

'Among the huge flaws in Eden's paper, pointed out by his critics, is that he somehow calculates, without explanation, that 120 point mutations would require 2,700,000 generations (among other things, he assumes a ridiculously low mutation rate of 1 in 1 million offspring). But in reality, even if only 1 mutation dominates a population every 20 generations, it will only take 2400 generations to complete a 120-point change'

Answer 4

Yah, that's what I'd like to know. Everyone knows that evolution is just a made up story and GOD created everything just the way it is right now.

Answer 5

Because there will always be those people who do not want a God to obey. They want no one telling them what is right and wrong. They want no hell as a punishment, and no heaven for a reward.

Answer 6

get real all the world is wrong but your weird outdated fool .
to bad they don't have a place for disclaimers and recants for people like yourself. if your thinking doesn't match reality change the facts!

Answer 7

evolution cant die mainly because it cant be proven the process is to slow so it cant be scientific law its still a theory

Answer 8

It's not dead because scientists are still using it!
It's a scientific theory not a popularity contest!!

Edited to add: There are scientist Christians. (I almost wrote Christian scientists... lol whole other meaning).

Answer 9

You can check all those claims and many more - and discover why they are wrong - in the Index to Creationist Claims.
http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/

Answer 10

You can't kill an idea, they aren't really alive. Okay, the guy who wrote the Lucifer Principle kinda thought they were, but he was pretty weird lol.