Pro-Iraq War people, pro-Bush people, do you still exist?

Question

Are there any still out there?

If you are one of these or both, please explain.

Do NOT answer if you are anti-war/anti-Bush. We all know about that stance.


(PS I'm anti both).

Just because I don't approve of Bush, doesn't mean I liked Clinton. I am incredibly ant-Clinton, just so you know. I'm not a radical liberal.

Answer 1

Yes, we are still here and hopefully sticking together. I know how you're feeling. I have those mixed emotions as well and I don't like how that makes me feel. Sometimes, I feel I am very right about being Pro-GWB and other times, while using common sense along with my heart being attached, there are many instances I think he made many more than several mistakes. However, it is my solid contention that all of this was dropped into his lap on purpose and that he was used as a scape-goat to get the dirty work done and become the bad guy.

I cannot fathom in my mind why people on the other side of the fence cannot see the truth. I have posted previous quotes by Clinton, Pelosi, (the woman I truly lothe), Levin, Kerry and all the other Dems from 1999 through 2005. Every single one of them said that the Intel swore that Saddam had those WMD's, yet everyone here, as well as in Washington, is in denial. It was also a legitimate MISTAKE for them, but it was not a mistake for the President being handed a load of crap.

I can see many aspects of the 9/11 conspiricy as well, but I do believe with all my heart after view several hours long tapes of the collapsing towers, and the lease-holder of the buildings and Gulliani were in on it together, along with another senator, John Edwards to get this pulled off and make GWB look like the guilty party.

Edwards had a slip of the tongue during his campaign with Kerry. He told people he was in Afganistan 2 weeks before 9/11. However, he stopped himself abruptly and never revealed the reason 'why' he was there. Which is a good question...WHY was he there two weeks prior. It was never revealed; however, what was of record and many people could not come to grips with him running for office with Kerry, was his horrible voting record in Washington. He was rarely there....yet, he had time to take 2 weeks before 9/11 and travel to Afganistan. Maybe to look for and pay off bin Laden?? in advance for taking the fall?

I had also seen the original video of the pentagon being hit on the DoD web site...before they cut more out. I could see the nose of the plane heading toward the building, but it never reached the building...and it was NOT a passanger plane. It looked like a military jet shooting a rocket into the wall. Since when do flames burst out from a building before the plane hits? In my mind, the area that was hit and the people who were killed, knew what was going on, and this was a way to silence them for good. The first photo's shown right after the fire was put out and camera crews went in, there was not plane wreckage what so ever. The center was completely empty and there were never any plane parts found...no black box?, no fusclage (sp) fragments..no parts from the wings??? What happened to the parts and why was there never a search for a black box??? The only answer is, there wasn't one.

As far as the towers, it has been proven in a private investigation, that Thalimate was used to bring down the buildings. The same kind that is used in demolition. I saw those videos as well and I sat here in utter tears. Along with that investigation, there was a taped interview with the lease-holder (a real estate millionaire) who paid $15 million dollars for the Towers and the surrounding buildings. This man, when purchasing the properties and getting them insured made sure that he had added insurance against terrorism. Now, don't you find that strange? When it came time to settle the tab with him, he came out of it with over $900 million dollars. He was interviewed a second time and told the interviewer that he had them 'pull' the 7 story building which had the fires, but the planes did not hit. That expression 'pull' is a term that is used by demolition experts when taking down a building. It fell into it's own print, the same way the towers did.

It was also common knowledge that Rudy Guillani was a bit fed up with the cost involved in maintaining the towers. They were getting old, as they were hitting 30 years, and they needed upgrades. It is also common knowledge that GWB's brother handled the security for the building. There were also many people who were called in advance and told NOT to go to work that day. They had come forward not too long ago. I guess the guilt was too much for them to handle.

Anyway, this is way to long to put in here. Email me at [e-mail] and I'll give you the rest of the details. I'll try to remember where I left off.

Answer 2

Imagine if you asked your family and friends about buying a new car and they all thought it was a great idea and you should do it, but then when you did, nobody liked it and nobody wanted to ride in it with you. Wouldn't you scratch your head and wonder why they turned on you? And that's just a car. Now multiply that 100 times and you'll see why its ludacris to say you support the Troops but not the war.

I'm trying to figure out how I can get another opportunity to deploy to Iraq and work for General Petreaus again! I'm currently in a critical shortage job (there is only one of me) so I can't just leave. I was with General Petreaus in Northern Iraq (Mosul) and saw the difference we made in LIBERATING that country from the oppressive regime that was Saddam Hussein's.

I know Iraq is MUCH better off after being liberated - forget the lies about how there were no WMD and about how America is growing tired. America is growing tired of the continual bashing of the war and the Presdient by the LIBERAL press. I support the war and want to go back.

As for the President, my Wife and I discussed this the other night. We came to the conclusion that he was getting bad advice about how to win the war (and who would have thought that everybody that voted for it would now be so loudly against it). It seems now that now he is getting better advice and wants to do things different in Iraq (and more troops will help do that). We still are solidly behind him because of his leadership, his character, and especially because of his Christianity.

If you have time, do some research on the sleaze factor between the Clinton administration and the Bush Administration. By the time Clinton was in office for 6 years, there were already over 7 major scandles (Travelgate, Filegate, Whitewatergate, Fostergate, Hillarygate - the secret 4 billion health care task force, Ron Browngate, Charlie Triegate) and another 9 minor ones (not counting the one that actually got him impeached - Monikagate). In the Bush Admin there has only been one, Scooter Libbey (and that one is still questionable because he got charged with perjury and not for revealing Plame's name - which was the whole charter of the prosecutor to look into).

Iraq war - 1
President Bush - 1
General Petreaus - 1
Liberal Press - 0
Not supporting the Troop AND thier mission - 0
Voting for the war and changing your mind - 0

Hope this helps! Great Question!

Answer 3

i'm pro war mainly because the Iraq people want us there fighting the terrorists (which by the way there are more terrorists in Iraq then anwhere else). The American opinion is sh*t and doesn't matter maybe instead of getting pissed that troops are dying listen to what the Iraqi people have to say about our fighting for once because those are the people truly being effected by this. Nevermind 9/11,terrorism is a worldwide threat and we're stabbing it straight in its heart but I suppose the anti war people would rather have L.A. Chicago and New York to blow to sh*ts while they sit on their asses watching t.v. I suppose when Japan invaded Pearl Harbour we're supposed to forgive them. Or when a man starves hundreds of thousands of his own people we try diplomatic relations 'cause who gives a f*ck, right? My stance on bush? He's not the best ever but Osama sent tapes threatening us to vote for Kerry so Bush must be doing a good job in Iraq and Afghanistan although our economy is suffering along with the strength of the dollar and our national debt is on 9 trillion dollars (bush costed 3.5 of that 9 trill) I wish we would get out of debt. I don't believe bush is in iraq for oil or our economy would be MUCH better now but we buy mostly i think from Saudi Arabia and Kuwait we never needed iraq for it.

Answer 4

I am very pro both. I am pro-Iraq war because what we are doing in Iraq needs to happen. We have taken down a dangerous dictator who gave no second thoughts to killing thousands of his own people, and would not have hesitated to kill Americans when ever he got the chance. Iraq now has more schools, more electricity, more running water, and more infrastructure than ever before. All of the violence and hate you see on the news is a very small percent of the country. There are currently 5 small "hot spots" where all of the fighting is occurring. Most of the insurgents are not Iraqi, but foriegn islamic extremists who are jumping at a chance to attack th "devils of western capitolism."

I am pro-Bush because I believe he is doing the right thing. He may not have all of the best reasons, and there are definitely things he could do better, but it would be the same with any other president we might have. Through our inteligence, we KNOW that Osama bin Laden and other terrorist leaders have planned more attacks against the US, many that would make 9/11 look small, but in taking the fight to them, and keeping the on the run, President Bush is keeping them too far off balance to carry out any of their plans. President Bush may not be the smartest, or most articulate president we have ever had, and he could pay more attention to things at home, but I firmly believe that he is a good man who is trying to do what he thinks is best for the country. If you want to blame someone for the current state of affairs, blame the liberal media that twists everything in opposition to the war. We see plenty of images of violence on TV, but what we don't see are the pictures of soldiers playing with Iraqi kids, Iraqi people holding signs that say "thank you very much Mister Bush," soldiers handing out toys and candy, giving medical care, building houses. That is what is really going on in Iraq. That is what President Bush has done.

Answer 5

Yes. I support Bush and the war in Iraq.

I think after 9/11, Saddam was a threat we needed to get rid of, and he gave us enough reasons.

Just because the war isn't all Rosy, and WMD's weren't found, I still think he made the right decision. Wondering when Saddam will get a chemical bomb and give it to al Qaeda scares me.

Unlike the Democrats in Congress who only care about their poll numbers, Bush knows a right decision when he sees one.

Do some research on Lincoln and the Civil War. The similarity is uncanny.

Answer 6

Then what after Bush pulls out from Iraq? Will Iraq be more secure? Will less people die? Will less bombs explode? Will less terrorists be trained? Will the world go back to the past? I don't think so. I am anti-war after seeing what war is in real life experience. I don't have problem with Bush as long as everything is cool. The deed has been done and it can't be undone. The question now is how should we deal with the problem at hand.

Answer 7

I believe that President Bush has done the best job possible to protect this country. I do not agree with everything he says but I think that he has made this country safer and to do that, Iraq had to be taken down. I don't think that Iraq will be the end though, we're at a flashpoint in history, possibly on the verge of WWIII.

Answer 8

Theyre always going to exits but right now their voice is limited to kicking and screaming, since now they arent the majority.

In some way I want to believe that they are trying to be diplomatic, and show their loyalty to this President. Almost like an uninformed person who doesnt know all the facts, but still is patriotic -- hey I just described FOX veiwers didnt I?.
But in voicing there opinion I try and hope that their intentions are just, and only GOD knows if their hearts are true.

But isnt there a time when you take in all the FACTS, and realize, hey maybe we did mess up here. Maybe our president is alittle off. Maybe it should stop being a republican or democrat debate, and more focused on whats best for the men and women that are dying while we bask in the freedom and protection they are fighting for.

I dont consider myself republican, nor democrat, I only strive to contribute to whats best for my fellow americans, my country, my family, and for every innocent person who deserves the same freedoms I am allowed.

It would be good if that was the real issue wouldnt it?

P.S. Hey justin - when presidents approval rate is down within the 20's, I think your arguement doesnt hold water

P.S. Redstaple -- tell me again - who supplied hiw with that mustard gas.
And mustard gas is hardly comparible to the nuclear weapons that were promised, isnt it?

Answer 9

human beings die thats in basic terms the way it incredibly is they could be dyeing with or devoid human beings there. what do you think of the insurgents and terrorists might do to the those that helped us. they might bloodbath them. oh and to no longer point out that Sadam Hussein killed 1000's of his very own human beings until eventually now we ever attacked Iraq. And in Afghanistan in case you assert we could continually no longer combat the terrorist by using fact they might get extra aggressive. they attacked us first to no longer do any element might in basic terms cause them to extra ambitious. Oh and has usa had a terrorist attack in view that we retaliated against the terrorist, NO. civilians dyeing is a factor of conflict, a regrettable area, yet nonetheless there. Fahrenheit 9/11 is packed with S..H .. I.. T.. get your info from an extremely source. Do you definitely think of a fat guy in Hollywood is familiar with the main on the subject of the conflict and regulations in the direction of civilians. attempt chatting with some squaddies you're able to get enlightened.

Answer 10

not pro bush, but pro iraq war yes...I think America is waaaaay to soft on Iraq at the moment, I think its time to use more drastic and terrible weapons, and make Iraq an example to the rest of the terrorist world who would kill americans....we need to be so terrible, so horrible and so brutal to the terrorists and their supporters (civilian or military) that they will wish that they were never born, I know this sounds cruel, but we cant continue following standard military rules, if our enemies wont follow them.

I guarantee this type of strategy will end the war in a matter of weeks...and will give something for the terrorists such a fright that they wont ever dare attack americans again.