They seem to have a lot to say here in America but I don't think either one of them have the guts to say they think the war is a lost cause to the servicemen fighting for their rights to say it.
2007-02-15 16:32:12 · 18 answers · asked by question212 6 in Politics & Government ➔ Military
I would love to see them sit for a Q&A session with some troops. I wish I was still in the Army and chosen for that. I'd shame them for being such useless self-centered officials.
2007-02-15 16:45:48 · answer #1 · answered by justind_000 3 · 0⤊ 3⤋
The servicemen and women aren't fighting for our rights. If you haven't noticed this whole war was a mistake, and they need to come home and out of harms way. Our reason for going to war was false. Everything that Bush has planned there has gone horribly wrong. The rank and file have to keep going back again and again. We now have had to lower the standards of who can serve in the military at a time when the technology actually requires a higher level of intellegence than ever. We are stretched out so thin our capabilities to defend ourselves else where are limited. Bin Laden and his cronies are still around, and now setting up show in Iraq when they had no presence there before. So yes, I would love to see Pelosi and Murtha go there, with a bunch of planes and bring everyone home.
2007-02-16 00:44:03 · answer #2 · answered by grouch2111 6 · 2⤊ 2⤋
Where have you been? Pelosi just returned from Iraq. She talked to the troops and had many meetings with soldiers and their commanders. She was welcomed by all. Get your facts straight. And Murtha is a decorated Viet Nam vet, not a draft dodger like Bush and Cheney.
2007-02-16 00:56:50 · answer #3 · answered by notyou311 7 · 2⤊ 1⤋
I'd like to see Nancy Pelosi and John Murtha and a whole bunch of others declared enemies of the state, but that's not going to happen. I don't see how much good them talking to the troops would be: they'd just twist it into some horrible thing that evidently proves decisively that Bush is evil and we need to leave Iraq posthaste.
2007-02-16 00:38:27 · answer #4 · answered by Richard S 5 · 1⤊ 3⤋
Nancy Pelosi just came back from Iraq, I might not like her politics but she stands behind what she believes.
I don't beleive John Murtha would be very welcome around the troops right now, same with John Kerry.
another note:
Guess who didn't go to a single Fireman's or Policeman's funeral in NY after 9/11?
Hillary Clinton.
2007-02-16 00:40:55 · answer #5 · answered by jeeper_peeper321 7 · 1⤊ 2⤋
Nancy Pelosi and John Murtha are both liberal Communists. It's no wonder you hear the crap that comes out of their mouths!
I don't think for one moment that they would address the troops because they would get pelted off the stage for disrespecting those brave young people in uniform.
It strikes me funny that they think these young folks are supposed to go over there, fight, get wounded or die, and then cut and run before the mission is completed. It's a disgrace. BUT.... Americans put these idiots in office, and now we're stuck with them!
2007-02-16 00:36:38 · answer #6 · answered by C J 6 · 2⤊ 3⤋
Excuse me but what and the hell do the troops know about national policy?
A grunt on the grund knows whats on the ground in front of him nothing more nothing less and in the main for what his jobs is supposed to be that is al he has to know.
If he is infantry and looking forbad gusy then he finds bad guys but may not even know the guys he just killed were in fact not sunnis or shias or Kurds for that mater, for the time he was engaged they were the enemy.
national policy is not set by the military, well it is not supposed to be set by them.
They follow civilian orders and while you people keep saying the politcos are calling the shots that is not the case.
Never before in history of nations military has area commanders had such a free rein as they do today. Never!
So what if a soldier knows how to kill thye eenmy if given a choice they would blow every house away in a village of thousands just to not take a chance of losing one of their buddies.
Yes they are good at killing but their killing is causing hundreds of more enemys who hate them for every person they kill.
They are not the ones to decide if it is right or wrong for them to kill the extras it is for the nations leaders to decide if the collateral damasge is acceptable or not.
Sorry but they are not all heros either. they are just doing a job that in Iraq is not one heck of a lot more dangeropus than a cop on the beat in many of our major metro areas. In fact probaably less dangerous for the numbers of military over there than a small town sherrifs life is.
The plain truth is that grunt may be as dumb as a rock about anything other than how to fire his rifle and protect himself and his buddys
For crying out loud you now have over 40,000 non US citizens in the combat ranks of your miitary.Are they fighting for patriotism or for a chance at citizenship and making more money thena hey made in latinos countrys or african ones ?
They do not have to know why or what reaasosn they are sent there just be brainwashed enough to kill the enemy. That is why they are there.
A professional soldier does not worry about the politic he lets his leaders do that. Leaders he may look down upon for not getting their uniforms dirty but those leaders do the thinking they do the action and that is the way it has always been for military forces.
There is nothign special about a man in uniform and you can take the dumbest guy on the street and within minutes he can fire a weapon. He knows how to survie to soem extent and in truth is an expendable part of the overall political objectives.
Patritotism is Bull crap to some extent. the soldiers with the death heads of the German death squads were good patriotic German citizens and those soldiers who killed Iranians for the US were good patritotic iraquis and did not know Saddam was using them for his own political agenda as they thought they were fighting to save their Iraqui Homeland.
A professional soldier does not care about why he is there so much as survivng the time he is there.His family is his unit, his father his superior NCO or officer anbd his brothers are the men in his squad.
\That is the way it has to be for a unit to be good.
Sure he can tell you only if we had killed more we could win and he is right. We could kill all of them but would that make Iraq a better country? For whom?
Next is that Iraq is an easy war for American Soldiers.
All this BS about not knowing the enemy because the enemy does not wear uniforms is just that BS. Whayt kind of forces do they think they should be facing once they occupy another country that had no military to begin with.
One reason we do not have a body count today is because it would be hjard pressed to show actual armed assailants killed in comparison the number of unarmed civilians killed especailly as this war is a very close in type warfare and not one of mass bombing raids or long range arty.
2007-02-16 01:12:43 · answer #7 · answered by theooldman 3 · 0⤊ 1⤋
It wasn't that long ago that most servicemen said the US should withdraw completely from Iraq within a year. Do you think things have changed that much?
http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0301/dailyUpdate.html
http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1075
2007-02-16 00:56:56 · answer #8 · answered by Cowboy 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I would like to see more policy makers' sons and daugthers in the Armed Forces. Great example we get from the Bush's daughters.
2007-02-16 01:50:52 · answer #9 · answered by TheMatador 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
What! Again? They have been there before and talked to troops. Don't you think they have better things to do?
2007-02-16 01:01:23 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋